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		<title>By: Pitfalls in Market Sizing (part 6 continued) &#124; CloudAve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pitfalls in Market Sizing (part 6 continued) &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Standing on the Shoulders of Giants&#8211;at least for an hour! &#171; Ventures</title>
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		<dc:creator>Standing on the Shoulders of Giants&#8211;at least for an hour! &#171; Ventures</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: marksuster</title>
		<link>http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2009/06/16/pitfalls-in-market-sizing-part-6-continued/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>marksuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  I&#039;ll try to watch my typos.  It&#039;s just that usually I write after my kids and my wife have gone to sleep, which means I write from 11:00pm - 1:00am.  So I&#039;m usually more interested in getting the content out than the perfect spelling.  If you notice any typos or misused words by all means please point them out and I&#039;ll happily update.  Thank you for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  I&#8217;ll try to watch my typos.  It&#8217;s just that usually I write after my kids and my wife have gone to sleep, which means I write from 11:00pm &#8211; 1:00am.  So I&#8217;m usually more interested in getting the content out than the perfect spelling.  If you notice any typos or misused words by all means please point them out and I&#8217;ll happily update.  Thank you for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: SaraJoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaraJoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really helpful information, interesting perspective. Just dipping toes into this world myself, a little inside info is certainly appreciated.
It would help your credibility if you were more careful about proofreading, though. The typos and usage mistakes are distracting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really helpful information, interesting perspective. Just dipping toes into this world myself, a little inside info is certainly appreciated.<br />
It would help your credibility if you were more careful about proofreading, though. The typos and usage mistakes are distracting.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mark. Very helpful. Plus, terrific blog. (I&#039;ve read all of it in the last 24 hours.) Kind regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mark. Very helpful. Plus, terrific blog. (I&#8217;ve read all of it in the last 24 hours.) Kind regards.</p>
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		<title>By: marksuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>marksuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents: you can show data on marketing sizing and your growth rate.  You can show 2 models called &quot;base case&quot; and &quot;aggressive case&quot; and your model is built on the base case.  Your pitch is: &quot;this is what we believe will happen in the market and we&#039;ve tried to use &quot;realistic&quot; numbers to model.  The reality is that we can never predict at this early stage in our business what will happen but we&#039;re know we&#039;re 1) addressing a serious problem that people have, 2) we have differentiated IP and 3) the market size is large.&quot;  Something like that.  Good luck!  P.S. MBA&#039;s are overrated - I wouldn&#039;t sweat that ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents: you can show data on marketing sizing and your growth rate.  You can show 2 models called &#8220;base case&#8221; and &#8220;aggressive case&#8221; and your model is built on the base case.  Your pitch is: &#8220;this is what we believe will happen in the market and we&#8217;ve tried to use &#8220;realistic&#8221; numbers to model.  The reality is that we can never predict at this early stage in our business what will happen but we&#8217;re know we&#8217;re 1) addressing a serious problem that people have, 2) we have differentiated IP and 3) the market size is large.&#8221;  Something like that.  Good luck!  P.S. MBA&#8217;s are overrated &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t sweat that <img src='http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pitched a VC this week using financials based on bottom-up estimates of market size, etc that -- I believe -- really are VERY conservative. We narrowed an initial market of 22 million U.S. houeholds (with a child 6 or under) down to about 5 million (who we estimated to be better educated and focused on child raising). Then we built our models around the possibility of reaching 1% of that market within 5 years. I picked 1% out of my own little brain; however suprisingly, I never had heard of other people using that percentage so regularly. (Among other things, I&#039;m not a B-school grad.)

When I shipped my latest glorious business plan off to the a kind VC director who asked to take a look at it this week, I did not 1 but 2 of the things you describe as pitfalls above, namely, using the 1% figure and telling him that my financials are conservative.

Did I screw up? I was deathly afraid that he would think I was pulling optimistic numbers out of my rear end, but maybe simply by doing these 2 things that you cite as pitfalls, I have ruined my credibility anyway.

Is the point not to use conservative numbers, or is simply not to point out that you are doing so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pitched a VC this week using financials based on bottom-up estimates of market size, etc that &#8212; I believe &#8212; really are VERY conservative. We narrowed an initial market of 22 million U.S. houeholds (with a child 6 or under) down to about 5 million (who we estimated to be better educated and focused on child raising). Then we built our models around the possibility of reaching 1% of that market within 5 years. I picked 1% out of my own little brain; however suprisingly, I never had heard of other people using that percentage so regularly. (Among other things, I&#8217;m not a B-school grad.)</p>
<p>When I shipped my latest glorious business plan off to the a kind VC director who asked to take a look at it this week, I did not 1 but 2 of the things you describe as pitfalls above, namely, using the 1% figure and telling him that my financials are conservative.</p>
<p>Did I screw up? I was deathly afraid that he would think I was pulling optimistic numbers out of my rear end, but maybe simply by doing these 2 things that you cite as pitfalls, I have ruined my credibility anyway.</p>
<p>Is the point not to use conservative numbers, or is simply not to point out that you are doing so?</p>
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