What Can You Learn from the 4-Hour Workweek?

by Mark Suster on January 10, 2010

the-4-hour-workweekA couple of years ago I read the popular book, “The Four Hour Workweek” by Tim Ferriss.  It was recommended to me by my friend, Net Jacobsson, who was trying to do some basic Life Hacking.  If you’re not familiar with the term it’s basically trying to help all of us who are deluged with technology to find ways to cope with the masses of information without having it ruin our lives.

Let me start by saying I’m a huge business book cynic.  I think too many books are written by charlatans and have too much management jargon / double speak that I can’t stand.  So I don’t read too many of them.  You can imagine my reluctance to read a book with a title full of such bluster.  But Net had told me that he picked up some valuable lessons from the book, so I thought, “WTF? Can’t hurt.”

I’m sure many people have many take-aways (positive and negative) from the book.  But on balance for me the positive messages far outweighed the negative ones.  I didn’t go back and re-read the book or double check my exact language but the thoughts below are directionally correct (the fact that I remember anything a few years later from a business book is already a huge positive sign).

My 2 biggest positives:

1. The Deferred Life (DL) Plan - This point alone makes the book worth reading.   The concept is that in the “information era” the overwhelming majority of employees in the world have meaningless jobs pushing papers from one side of their desk to the other side from 9am to 5pm and really don’t have much of an impact on anything.  The problem is that most people in this situation know they are stuck in the position and never try to change or to do anything about it.

In America being in this type of job means that you get 2 (maybe 3) weeks of vacation per year.  So people diligently put in their hours every year, brag about how little vacation they’ve taken and try to save up for 45 years so that one day in their late 60′s (or in today’s era 70′s) they can do what they’ve always dreamed of.  They can travel the world, take classes in interesting subjects, spend time with loved ones or start new hobbies.  Of course when they get there those individuals are no longer young and after years of mental and physical atrophy they lack the ambitions to get these things done.

Tim Ferriss’ assertion is that you should try to pursue an entrepreneurial job where you can take control of your life and your hours.  You should make a list of the ambitions that you have in life and accomplish many of those things now.  Want to spend a year or more in Argentina?  Andrew Warner from Mixergy is doing it.  He’s not on the Deferred Life plan.

With the exception of rare circumstances most people could do this if they chose to.  I’m not saying there would be zero sacrifice but if it’s your dream what are you waiting for?  Want to take a year pursuing your dream to write a screenplay, travel through Asia, run a triathlon or start your own fashion line?  If not now, then when?

Of course the 4-hour work week and DL plan is a gross over generalization and meant to be shocking.  So in that context let me use it.  I often encourage people to pursue their entrepreneurial dreams.  I wrote a blog post related to this called Is it Time to Earn or to Learn? If you don’t have entrepreneurial dreams no problem.  But if you do and if you sit on the sidelines waiting for the day when the circumstances are right for you to start a company you never will.  You’re on the DS (deferred startup) plan.

How I Avoided the Deferred Life Plan – And Why it Means So Much to Me

I worked for a large multinational for nearly a decade.  I learned much and had great experiences.  I used it as my “live now” vehicle.  After 3.5 years in LA (early 90′s) many of my friends left to start companies in Silicon Valley.  We were high tech at the very start of the boom.  I chose a different path.  I pushed for Accenture to transfer me to Europe.

It took more than a year to make this happen (I’ll cover how I did this in a different post) but January 2nd, 1995 I flew to France for 2 years and didn’t move back to the US for 11 years.  During this period of time I found ways to get my firm to staff me in Italy, France, Hungary, Switzerland, Belgium, Spain and the UK.  I got my firm to pay for 50% of my MBA and I did the international program at the University of Chicago.  Our European campus was in Barcelona where I rented a villa with 5 buddies.  I spent 8 weeks there per year as well as time in Chicago.  I did all of this while I had an income.

In early 1999 I made the decision to fulfill my lifelong dream to live and work in Japan.  I will also cover how I accomplished this in a separate post but in early 1999 I arrived in Tokyo for the first time.  I spent 6 months there (actually, I commuted between London and Tokyo 6 times in those 6 months).  I ran a team of 14 people (12 Japanese, 1 German and 1 Turk … both of whom were fluent in Japanese) who produced an Internet strategy for the board of Sony.  I got to experience much of the local culture and customs.  It was not a touristy experience.

My big push to avoid the Deferred Life plan came from a bad experience at my first employer.  My first corporate job was at First Interstate Bank where I worked in Corporate Finance.  My boss and my boss’s boss made me all sorts of promises about how quickly I’d be promoted.  I’m sure they meant it.  I worked late hours but didn’t care because I was young.  But I was a bit depressed to see my boss’s boss there late every night.  He had 2 kids and seemed to stay late for mostly political reasons (or maybe he enjoyed it more than he enjoyed being home?).  His boss worked too much too.  We all did until the S&L crisis hit and I was laid off.  So was my boss.  And my boss’s boss.   And his boss.  And his boss.  Our bank was gutted.

I was 22 and unemployed.  It was the best thing that ever happened to me.  I had a nice severance check and secured a job with Andersen Consulting very quickly.  And it taught me at 22 to be my own man.  Large corporations can be soulless.  They are necessary and do much good but they do what they have to to evolve and survive.   You may be a ‘favored child’ now but when circumstances change radically, business is business.  And while I bounced back very easily, many of the bank elders did not.

I swore never to let that happen to me.  A rolling stone gathers no moss.  I wanted to be that guy who was always morphing.  Always developing.  Seeing new places, learning new things.  Always on take off, never at cruising altitude.  Not on the deferred life plan.  And so it was that I pushed to get jobs in LA, Miami, Rome, Barcelona, the South of France, London and Tokyo.

2. Getting Your Work Schedule on Your Terms – Many people in America sit at their desk much of the day and have email open.  When a new email comes in you see the little pop-up in the bottom right-hand corner of your screen and like Pavlov’s dog you feel an adrenaline rush and need to read that email.

We have become a reactive society where we feel beholden to those that want to contact us.  We owe them all something.  I am like this, too.  I feel guilt and stress when I don’t respond to people that reach out to me.  And from email we added IM, Facebook and LinkedIn where people contact us.  And, of course, now Twitter.

The 4 Hour Workweek sets out an extreme view of email and similar communications but it is directionally correct.  He says not to leave your email box opened all day and I totally agree with this one.  If you sit on your email all day you’re reacting to somebody else’s input rather than proactively getting your work done.  Tim recommends that you check email initially twice / day – at 11am and at the end of the day (if I remember correctly).  He doesn’t think you should check email first thing in the morning because you should start your day by getting the stuff done that is on YOUR important list, not somebody else’s.  He then goes on to recommend that you do email just once / week.  Yeah, right!

I wish I were good in the email category.  I feel the need to check first thing in the morning.  But then I tend to stay off email throughout the day as much as possible.  I check it when I’m between meetings or when I out and about because I can quickly read it on my Blackberry.  I try to do email at the end of each day but with so many evening obligations I find this hard.  Obviously if you’re in a customer support role, a sales role or a customer service industry this can be impossible.

Where I’m more disciplined is on Twitter.  I don’t leave Tweetdeck or Seesmic apps open during the day.  These are great products but if you have them open all day and see the pop ups telling you, “You’ve Got Tweets,” then you’re sucked in.  So my Twitter pattern is to check in the AM, check between meetings for 5 minutes max and check in the PM.  And, of course, I check incessantly when I travel, am waiting for a meeting or am sitting in a conference.  Blackberry satisfies this addiction.

My 2 biggest negatives about the book:

1. Not everybody is geared up to be an entrepreneur – Tim Ferriss is obviously a very talented individual.  I believe that he takes for granted that everybody can start their own company and run it a few hours / week and earn a decent living.  I think the overwhelming majority of people would not be good at running their own small businesses (but that doesn’t mean they need to work in mindless jobs or be on the Deferred Life plan).

When I counsel people on whether they should make the leap to running their own company I always give the honest truth that being an entrepreneur is hard, stressful, time consuming and a low-probability of making millions.  It’s not for most.  But if the person that I’m talking with seems unphased by this and has the passion to try then I become unbearable in preaching from my soap box how they should stop sitting on the sidelines.  I just don’t believe in coaxing somebody who may not have the right constitution or economic circumstance.   To me the book glossed over this.  You should buy it and read it anyways.

2. Four hours is unrealistic – OK, so if he called the book the 34-hour workweek I guess he wouldn’t have sold too many copies.  I guess the 70-Hour Workweek defeats the point of the book.  Let me assume that Tim Ferriss really only works 4 hours / week.  Then he’s the only person not born into wealth or not in semi-retirement that I believe can do this.  It’s just not realistic.  I believe you can choose not to over work, but 4 hours?  Meh.

My advice.  Whatever you decide to do about your career, find the little things to take you off the DL list.  If you always planned to study a second language – START!  If you have kids make sure you find ways to occasionally drive them to school or turn up at their school events.  Find a way to schedule meetings on Fridays out of town so you can merge work meetings and family adventure.

If you’ve always wanted to travel find a way to make this happen through your work or find work that will enable this.   When I went it was at the end of the last big recession.  I worked long and hard to make it happen.  You CAN do it.  It may not be your exact plan.  Mine was to live in Spain but I could only make France happen.  Close enough.  If you wait for the “perfect time” you’ll never go.  Trust me.

Next post: two “4-Hour Workweek” like hacks I started in 2009 to try and take back control of my life that are saving me hours.

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  • http://twitter.com/privateequiteer The Private Equiteer

    It's pretty easy to judge Tim on his facade and self-promotion. But there's no doubt he's a very intelligent guy. And he actually comes across as a very thoughtful and methodical individual. Mark, I think this idea of avoiding the DL is taking off in other guises too (see Andrew's interview on Mixergy with Kareem).

  • christian

    What about this method?

    http://www.ted.com/talks/stefan_sagmeister_the_

    7 years of continous work and 1 year off to refresh your creativity.

    Smart.

    happy to hear you enjoyed barcelona. the city is great.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    I personally don't judge him. I think the book is amazing and his messages are great. I hope I didn't come across like I was judging him. In fact, because the title has such hubris I felt the need to emphasize that it is a REAL book that should be read by all (with some doses of cynicism for his extreme-ness).

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    7 years on, 1 year off sounds like an awesome idea. So are sabbaticals. Anything to avoid the DL list. re: Barcelona – one of my favorite cities in the world.

  • http://twitter.com/justyn Justyn Howard

    First – Mark, I hope you have some plans to write a book at some point! Please and thank you in advance.

    The four hour part was what always bothered me about Tim's book, but as you pointed out, it's primarily branding. Tim doesn't work four hours, nor do any other fantastically successful people.

    The other challenge with four hours, is I would go into a deep depression if i could only work four hours a week. My business is my passion, my hobby and my career rolled into one. I WANT to be working into the late hours of the night. I want to clock 80 hours of moving the business forward each week, and I want my team to have the same drive. If I could really do it in four hours a week, I'd find 20 more businesses to start. I need it.

    The book has an awful lot of wisdom-in-hind-sight, but it was still a great read and I've kept many of the lessons. At this point in my life, building something successful is as much fun as learning to Salsa or Travel or Kickbox, but like any book you can read between the lines and pull out what's applicable.

    So yeah – write a book already!

    Justyn

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/rajatsuri rajatsuri

    Here's another thought re Deferred Life Plan: do people actually know what they want to do? Sometimes I get the feeling that most people don't have much of a 'Life Plan' at all, but rather meander aimlessly through life, waiting for retirement, and then get bored when they finally do retire. I know many people like this.

    My experience is that way too many people end up like this, and it's unbearable/frustrating to me if it's someone close to me because I couldn't imagine living like that. Am I wrong?

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    When you love your work, it's hardly work anymore. Thus, you can do it as much as you want.

    That's part of it too, I suppose – the idea that “work” isn't “living.” Your work shouldn't just be a means to an end…

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    As cliche as it sounds, you are in control of your life and it is what you make of it. You and Ferris nailed it, and I'm following a similar path.

    Similarly, I had a friend trying to make a life decision post-graduation. My advice: “Do what you gotta do to feel alive.”

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Yes, but many people are “all business” for too long and miss out on other important parts of life including family, health and other pursuits. If you haven't read, “7 Habits of Highly Effective People” you should. Best business / life book I ever read.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Unfortunately, you're right. If anyone's reading this and doesn't have a list of 5-10 big dreams in life it's time to get out / sharpen the pencil.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Yes, “feeling alive” is important and it involves taking risks. That's the exhilaration called “life.” I'm not an excessive risk taker (I have two little boys) but a life with no risk is a life not lived.

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    Risk is all relative. I don't consider entrepreneurship risky, but I don't
    have kids (yet) and it's not risky in relation to the physical risks I like
    to take – surfing, scubadiving, snowboarding etc. To some, those activities
    are crazy, to base-jumpers, they're completely tame…

    Regardless of the level of risk, an innate quality of survivors is their
    attitude – acknowledging risk while caring little about it:

    “Good survivors…always consider the bleak side of things, too. They plan
    for them and have an earnest hope that they will manage. But they do not
    care overly much that they might not. They accept that to succumb is always
    a possibility and is ultimately their fate. They know safety is an illusion
    and being obsessed with safety is a sickness. They have a frank
    relationship with risk, which is the essence of life.” from Deep Survival
    (a recommended read from yours truly).

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    I didn't mean startup risk. I meant that I don't skydive, ride motorcycles or similar stuff that others enjoy (not that I ever did either of these ;-) But I try to dial back physical risks 20% where I can.

  • https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawl8ytkBaiQTvx_0OR-cx34q2HR-WN8Iw5M Colin Kelley

    I'm really glad you wrote about this, Mark. I was so put off by the title of the book I never read it. Now that I've seen your article I'll just assume it was Tim's Marketing/PR person who came up with the title. The kind of person who brainstorms book titles like Lose 100 Pounds Eating Steak & Ice Cream! Now I will definitely read it.

    > If anyone's reading this and doesn't have a list of 5-10 big dreams in life it's time to get out / sharpen the pencil.

    Er … um … can I use a gmail Task list?

    Totally agree about “masking interrupts” periodically to get work done. And the Pavlov image is perfect. Those pop-ups telling you every couple minutes of new email are just noise–stop salivating and turn them off! (But even worse are the IM status updates. My favorite was the creaking / slamming door sound effects MS Messenger had. It was like a freakin' haunted house.) How many of us have a habit of filling “free time” this way? Well, I do anyway. Probably a bad idea.

    @reecepacheco, I agree, that's the premise behind Csikszentmihalyi's [http://www.amazon.com/Flow-Classic-Work-Achieve-Happiness/dp/0712657592/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263177989&sr=8-2 Flow]. That's a fascinating take.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Hey, Colin. Yes, the biggest problem is the title. But some hubris does slip into the book so beware. But as I said, the great messages far outweigh the badness.

    re: IM – totally agree. I shut off all alerts. And sometimes I close my email to avoid popups. When I go out I turn my Blackberry over so I won't see the blinking light. If I really want to be “present” with my company I sometimes even leave it in the car (to avoid temptation!).

    re: “masking interrupts” – spoken like a CTO ;-)

  • http://blog.paul-mason.co.nz/ Paul Mason

    Great post; found it really enjoyable to read. I tend to agree with all of your points you've made – especially regarding the 4 hour week. In fact while I personally don't work a “full” work week – I enjoy what I do so I try to make the most of the hours I do put into it.

    Looking forward to hearing more about your story!

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    Yeah, I thought that's what you meant. Still, it's all one and the same.

    Risks – physical, mental, financial, social – are all around us and if none
    of us ever took a chance, on anything, we would be stuck in a Stone Age
    version of Groundhog Day.

    Another example from Deep Survival for you – re: The *Columbia* space
    shuttle accident.
    “Every precaution and material science known to man has been applied to the
    problem of making the thermal protection system work. It’s a known risk…
    But the odds against it [failing] are pretty good, especially when compared
    to the rewards of being an astronaut, so they’re willing to take the chance.
    In fact, they FIGHT for it… as would a lot of us. But getting the public to
    buy this is a lot tougher, especially a public that expects every risk in
    their lives to be mitigatable to zero. It will be interesting to see if NASA
    tries to take on this challenge, explaining to the public that doing bold
    things isn’t about engineering risk to zero. Shit happens, and if we just
    want to restrict ourselves to things where shit can’t happen… we’re not
    going to do anything very interesting.”

  • http://www.LeadPro247.Com/ PadduG

    Mark, I have not read Tim's book yet, though it has been recommended by several friends. Based on your post, I guess he stresses (1) setting objectives and planning, and (2) not over-working. The rest – including 4 hour work week and checking email once a week – are pure sales gimmicks. It is no different than '30 day weight loss program without exercise and diet'. Also, focused, single tasking is not always feasible for entrepreneurs associated with tech start ups, for example. Probably large company CXOs and executives could practice some of these as they have robust support systems and personnel.

    I agree 100% with your take that not everyone can be an entrepreneur. I closely follow the internet marketing community; they say that “every one can do it; become millionaires overnight”. We all know how many people loose their shirts in internet marketing!

    Keep up the good work!
    Regards,
    Paddu

  • http://twitter.com/mitensampat mitensampat

    Have to agree with Rajat.

  • http://bradleyjoyce.com bradleyjoyce

    After seeing Tim speak at RailsConf, it really turned me off to him (he basically rambled about nothing for an hour) and I ended up never reading the book. However, others I know have read the book and came away with the same basic messages Mark has laid out.

    After interning at Boeing for 3 years during summer breaks from school, I decided I didn't want to end up like all my co-workers and bailed… now living the dream on my terms!!

  • http://OpenSwipe.com Casey Allen

    Looking forward to the summary of your experiments, Mark. It's always nice to be able to compare notes with someone else. I hope you start a trend.

    The book lends itself to anyone…but it lends itself much better to someone juggling a ridiculous amount. Not that entrepreneurs have much time to read, but I'd say that in the early days, every startup CEO should read this. Preferably, long, long before launch

    Just imagine, Mark, if you had this book back during your startup days. Heck, you could've started three companies at once.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Thanks. Sounds like you already have a good work / life balance. Congrats.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Thanks, Paddu. There are a number of other good ideas in the book so still probably worth reading. Great analogy with the 30-day weight loss.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Ha. The book did make me think a lot about having “side” businesses. Maybe some day.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Hate to say it but I have a good friend at Boeing. I hope he's not reading this (or maybe he should?) but I want him to bail out. He's been there for years. His boss is so old school. He's commuting more than 1 hour each way because they won't allow remote working. It's a great company but as some point you gotta fly the coop. Sounds like you got out early.

  • http://www.theprivateequiteer.com/ The Private Equiteer

    No, not at all Mark; it was a blanket statement. Your post was definitely more complimentary than anything else. It chronicled how many of us were introduced to Tim: read book title, roll eyes, give him a chance, suddenly impressed.

  • Janet Bowman

    Uh, just wondering, Justyn…do you happen to have a family that you might want to devote a couple of hours a week to?

  • http://twitter.com/benbusse ben busse

    Great post Mark. I just skimmed the updated edition of Tim's book a few weeks back and found it pretty insightful. For those who haven't read it yet, take the title of the book with a grain of salt…it's meant to be provocative and help sell millions of copies (Tim is certainly skilled at self-promotion). “Join the new rich” tagline on the cover is classic…you know Tim did some A/B testing on that one.

    One key takeaway is learning to eliminate things that just don't matter (and “outsource” low value tasks) while focusing on the small percentage of things that matter a lot. This theme is obviously not new, but Tim does a great job applying it to the practical issues of making a living and, more importantly, making the most out of your limited time on earth.

    There's merit to minimalism, in the sense of saying no to things that don't matter. Take possessions for example. I went surfing this summer in South America for 3 months and lived out of a backpack on $20/day. One of the best things I've ever done. I got home and realized I don't need 80% of the crap I own…and I didn't own much before the trip. Ditching all the junk you don't really use is a great feeling.

    Keep up the great work! Love the blog.

  • http://twitter.com/justyn Justyn Howard

    Janet – As you can tell from my comments, I'm still young and without many family comittments :) However I wouldn't be surprised if my girlfriend paid you to say that! Ha. Kidding of course, but there is some semblance of balance in my routine.

  • http://twitter.com/justyn Justyn Howard

    We may be fooling ourselves, but many of us convince ourselves we're killing ourselves now so we can have more of the other pleasures. I think in practice that time often never comes. Something we (I) need to stay conscious of for sure. It's just so damn fun right now!

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Thanks, Ben. I'm a big believer in two things you mention:
    1. Minimalism (however that applies to each person's life)
    2. Cutting out low value tasks. Here I sometimes fall short.

  • http://www.theprivateequiteer.com/ The Private Equiteer

    It's pretty easy to judge Tim on his facade and self-promotion. But there's no doubt he's a very intelligent guy. And he actually comes across as a very thoughtful and methodical individual. Mark, I think this idea of avoiding the DL is taking off in other guises too (see Andrew's interview on Mixergy with Kareem).

  • christian

    What about this method?

    http://www.ted.com/talks/stefan_sagmeister_the_

    7 years of continous work and 1 year off to refresh your creativity.

    Smart.

    happy to hear you enjoyed barcelona. the city is great.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    I personally don't judge him. I think the book is amazing and his messages are great. I hope I didn't come across like I was judging him. In fact, because the title has such hubris I felt the need to emphasize that it is a REAL book that should be read by all (with some doses of cynicism for his extreme-ness).

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    7 years on, 1 year off sounds like an awesome idea. So are sabbaticals. Anything to avoid the DL list. re: Barcelona – one of my favorite cities in the world.

  • http://twitter.com/Justyn Justyn Howard

    First – Mark, I hope you have some plans to write a book at some point! Please and thank you in advance.

    The four hour part was what always bothered me about Tim's book, but as you pointed out, it's primarily branding. Tim doesn't work four hours, nor do any other fantastically successful people.

    The other challenge with four hours, is I would go into a deep depression if i could only work four hours a week. My business is my passion, my hobby and my career rolled into one. I WANT to be working into the late hours of the night. I want to clock 80 hours of moving the business forward each week, and I want my team to have the same drive. If I could really do it in four hours a week, I'd find 20 more businesses to start. I need it.

    The book has an awful lot of wisdom-in-hind-sight, but it was still a great read and I've kept many of the lessons. At this point in my life, building something successful is as much fun as learning to Salsa or Travel or Kickbox, but like any book you can read between the lines and pull out what's applicable.

    So yeah – write a book already!

    Justyn

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/rajatsuri rajatsuri

    Here's another thought re Deferred Life Plan: do people actually know what they want to do? Sometimes I get the feeling that most people don't have much of a 'Life Plan' at all, but rather meander aimlessly through life, waiting for retirement, and then get bored when they finally do retire. I know many people like this.

    My experience is that way too many people end up like this, and it's unbearable/frustrating to me if it's someone close to me because I couldn't imagine living like that. Am I wrong?

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    When you love your work, it's hardly work anymore. Thus, you can do it as much as you want.

    That's part of it too, I suppose – the idea that “work” isn't “living.” Your work shouldn't just be a means to an end…

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    As cliche as it sounds, you are in control of your life and it is what you make of it. You and Ferris nailed it, and I'm following a similar path.

    Similarly, I had a friend trying to make a life decision post-graduation. My advice: “Do what you gotta do to feel alive.”

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Yes, but many people are “all business” for too long and miss out on other important parts of life including family, health and other pursuits. If you haven't read, “7 Habits of Highly Effective People” you should. Best business / life book I ever read.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Unfortunately, you're right. If anyone's reading this and doesn't have a list of 5-10 big dreams in life it's time to get out / sharpen the pencil.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Yes, “feeling alive” is important and it involves taking risks. That's the exhilaration called “life.” I'm not an excessive risk taker (I have two little boys) but a life with no risk is a life not lived.

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    Risk is all relative. I don't consider entrepreneurship risky, but I don't
    have kids (yet) and it's not risky in relation to the physical risks I like
    to take – surfing, scubadiving, snowboarding etc. To some, those activities
    are crazy, to base-jumpers, they're completely tame…

    Regardless of the level of risk, an innate quality of survivors is their
    attitude – acknowledging risk while caring little about it:

    “Good survivors…always consider the bleak side of things, too. They plan
    for them and have an earnest hope that they will manage. But they do not
    care overly much that they might not. They accept that to succumb is always
    a possibility and is ultimately their fate. They know safety is an illusion
    and being obsessed with safety is a sickness. They have a frank
    relationship with risk, which is the essence of life.” from Deep Survival
    (a recommended read from yours truly).

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    I didn't mean startup risk. I meant that I don't skydive, ride motorcycles or similar stuff that others enjoy (not that I ever did either of these ;-) But I try to dial back physical risks 20% where I can.

  • https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawl8ytkBaiQTvx_0OR-cx34q2HR-WN8Iw5M Colin Kelley

    I'm really glad you wrote about this, Mark. I was so put off by the title of the book I never read it. Now that I've seen your article I'll just assume it was Tim's Marketing/PR person who came up with the title. The kind of person who brainstorms book titles like Lose 100 Pounds Eating Steak & Ice Cream! Now I will definitely read it.

    > If anyone's reading this and doesn't have a list of 5-10 big dreams in life it's time to get out / sharpen the pencil.

    Er … um … can I use a gmail Task list?

    Totally agree about “masking interrupts” periodically to get work done. And the Pavlov image is perfect. Those pop-ups telling you every couple minutes of new email are just noise–stop salivating and turn them off! (But even worse are the IM status updates. My favorite was the creaking / slamming door sound effects MS Messenger had. It was like a freakin' haunted house.) How many of us have a habit of filling “free time” this way? Well, I do anyway. Probably a bad idea.

    @reecepacheco, I agree, that's the premise behind Csikszentmihalyi's [http://www.amazon.com/Flow-Classic-Work-Achieve-Happiness/dp/0712657592/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263177989&sr=8-2 Flow]. That's a fascinating take.

  • http://bothsidesofthetable.com msuster

    Hey, Colin. Yes, the biggest problem is the title. But some hubris does slip into the book so beware. But as I said, the great messages far outweigh the badness.

    re: IM – totally agree. I shut off all alerts. And sometimes I close my email to avoid popups. When I go out I turn my Blackberry over so I won't see the blinking light. If I really want to be “present” with my company I sometimes even leave it in the car (to avoid temptation!).

    re: “masking interrupts” – spoken like a CTO ;-)

  • http://blog.paul-mason.co.nz/ Paul Mason

    Great post; found it really enjoyable to read. I tend to agree with all of your points you've made – especially regarding the 4 hour week. In fact while I personally don't work a “full” work week – I enjoy what I do so I try to make the most of the hours I do put into it.

    Looking forward to hearing more about your story!

  • http://reecepacheco.com reecepacheco

    Yeah, I thought that's what you meant. Still, it's all one and the same.

    Risks – physical, mental, financial, social – are all around us and if none
    of us ever took a chance, on anything, we would be stuck in a Stone Age
    version of Groundhog Day.

    Another example from Deep Survival for you – re: The *Columbia* space
    shuttle accident.
    “Every precaution and material science known to man has been applied to the
    problem of making the thermal protection system work. It’s a known risk…
    But the odds against it [failing] are pretty good, especially when compared
    to the rewards of being an astronaut, so they’re willing to take the chance.
    In fact, they FIGHT for it… as would a lot of us. But getting the public to
    buy this is a lot tougher, especially a public that expects every risk in
    their lives to be mitigatable to zero. It will be interesting to see if NASA
    tries to take on this challenge, explaining to the public that doing bold
    things isn’t about engineering risk to zero. Shit happens, and if we just
    want to restrict ourselves to things where shit can’t happen… we’re not
    going to do anything very interesting.”

  • http://twitter.com/mitensampat mitensampat

    Have to agree with Rajat.

  • http://www.LeadPro247.Com/ PadduG

    Mark, I have not read Tim's book yet, though it has been recommended by several friends. Based on your post, I guess he stresses (1) setting objectives and planning, and (2) not over-working. The rest – including 4 hour work week and checking email once a week – are pure sales gimmicks. It is no different than '30 day weight loss program without exercise and diet'. Also, focused, single tasking is not always feasible for entrepreneurs associated with tech start ups, for example. Probably large company CXOs and executives could practice some of these as they have robust support systems and personnel.

    I agree 100% with your take that not everyone can be an entrepreneur. I closely follow the internet marketing community; they say that “every one can do it; become millionaires overnight”. We all know how many people loose their shirts in internet marketing!

    Keep up the good work!
    Regards,
    Paddu

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