Why The ‘Fail Fast’ Mantra Needs to Fail

by Mark Suster on March 11, 2010

losing handsYesterday I wrote a post about how much capital your startup should raise.  In that post I was talking about how it is a bad strategy to be underfunded.  In general when capital is available take it (provided it’s on the right conditions and from the best people from whom you can raise).  It’s also bad to raise too much, too early.  If you’re interested in that topic I cover it in the article linked previously.

I made a diversion in the article that I shouldn’t have taken.  I talked about the Silicon Valley memo that has been circulated for the past couple of years that says you should “fail fast.”  What I said was:

“I’ve even heard people repeat this bullsh*t Silicon Valley mantra about “failing fast” which is horse puckey.  The line goes like this, “well at least you know early that your business isn’t going to work and you didn’t have to waste 2 years and $1 million trying to bang your head against a wall.”  That is so self centered it winds me up.  Tell that to the person who wrote you the $50,000 of their hard earned money and entrusted you to try your best.  Fail fast?  How does your brother-in-law feel about that?

And how do you think the next person who’s thinking about writing you a check going to feel about that sort of cavalier attitude with their money?  Fail fast = quit and give up easy = spaghetti against the wall = no clear strategy going into your business = no ability / willingness to try and pivot as market conditions change = easy way out = today’s management mantra that will be laughed at in 10 years.  Who started this meme?  I say define a strategy, test it up front and pivot if you’re not getting the traction you had expected.  Fail fast on your own dime.”

Obviously when a meme like “fail fast” forms and conventional wisdom builds in support of it you’re likely to get attacked for saying, “the emperor has no clothes.”  But I just said it.  Naked.  I shouldn’t have covered it in the last post because I should have stayed focused on the topic of how much money to raise.  Here’s an example of one comment I received,

“So you think it’s better to plan and build for years without testing it on the market and then make a big splash release and hope for the best?”

Nice logic, hey?  If I say “fail fast” isn’t the right strategy then it must be a long, slow release process, right?  I’m not attacking anybody’s religious beliefs.  I’m trying to enter the debate with what I found to be a very destructive guiding principle that young people have started to believe.  The following highlights what I do believe and why fail fast is wrong:

What is the right way to build a startup?

  • Define a market problem that you believe you can solve
  • Research this market by doing market sizing, looking at existing products, talking to customers and deciding how you will make money
  • Validate that you can make money before starting. This means looking at what your buyer pays for similar products now, what the history of other people who have tried to monetize in this way have experienced, what your costs to acquire customers will be and what you believe you can make over the customers’ lifetimes.  These are all assumptions – nothing more.  I believe passionately that if you don’t do a financial model you shouldn’t spend any time or money building a product.  You want to talk about the ultimate “fail fast” – how about if you fail before you’ve spent any money building product because you validate there isn’t a big enough market or you can’t make money?
  • If you believe there is a market then build a prototype product that you can show customers, investors and potential employees.
  • From there build the MVP (minimum viable product).  I believe in launching with a small set of features and learning from the market before you spend too much money building out a feature rich product or before you put serious capital to work.
  • If you validate that there’s a market then go for it!  If you don’t believe that your product is resonating then pivot and find one!

Why fail fast is wrong, irresponsible, unethical and heartless:

  • I’ve read all of the fail fast, fail cheap articles.  I’ve heard the insufferable speeches at conferences.  I understand that many people argue that “fail fast” just means launch products and learn from customers.  Fine.  Then let’s call this “launch and learn” as well as “adjust and pivot” when adoption doesn’t happen.
  • The problem is that when you brand something that will be interpreted differently by people who weren’t part of the zeitgeist when the memo went out about what “fail fast” meant then we educate the next generation of entrepreneurs to do things the wrong way
  • How do I know this?  Because I have met so many young entrepreneurs who tell me, “we don’t need business plans anymore, they’re a waste!  We’re going to put our product out there and fail fast!” [note: business plan to me does not equal long Microsoft Word document.  It means a financial model that sets a strategy for how you'll make money and spend money] or they tell me, “we’ll launch a bunch of products and see what works.”  That is the old “throw spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks” approach.  It’s intellectually lazy and I doubt many great companies are born this way.
  • Worse still I’ve actually heard the following from somebody that is reputable and whom I actually like, who has raised $1 million, “we don’t want to raise $3 million to get to the next round.  Either this thing has legs and will grow fast and we’ll raise at a very large price or we’re going to ‘fail fast’ .”  Me, “What?  Really?  What about the money you raised?  Aren’t you worried about that?”  Him, “Well, what do you want us to do, stick around for 3 years trying to build something that we know isn’t working?”  I can’t make this stuff up.  People think that way these days.  It’s wrong.  It’s immoral.  It’s irresponsible.  That’s hard earned money you’ve raised, not house money at a casino that you get to put on lucky number 16 and see if it comes up.
  • As Reece Pacheco appropriately said in his comment to yesterday’s post, “Know who else you shouldn’t fail fast with? Paying customers. My business has a bunch of them, and a lot more users who really depend on our service. They’re relying on us. Failing fast may be an out for our bootstrapped lives, but it’s not an option.”  Think about that.  People gave you money to use your service.  And they’ve invested their time and trust in you.  Failing fast is to disrespect the very customers who placed their trust in you.  It reminds me of the line, “blowing up your customers” and the disrespect bond traders had in the 1980′s for their clients in the book Liar’s Poker (One of the greatest business reads ever.  If you haven’t read it you should.  See the link for a list of quotes from the book including the now ubiquitous, “Big Swinging Dicks”)
  • We have taught a generation of young entrepreneurs that “failing fast” is ok.  It’s quick and easy.  It’s a way out so that you can focus on your next big business idea.  Why waste your time on this one?  Don’t get me wrong – failure is OK in my book.  I’d rather you try something that doesn’t work and learn from it then to never have tried before.  I personally think that second-time entrepreneurs are better because, as I’ve written, “good judgment comes from experience, but experience comes from bad judgment.”
  • But my message to young folks – if you take somebody’s money you have a responsibility.  I raised too much money at my first company and regretted it.  Long after the Dot Con 1.0 party was over and I knew that I personally wasn’t going to make as much as I thought I would – I stuck around.  I felt a moral obligation to spend this money that I had raised responsibly.  The market changed totally so my assumptions were all off.  Goldman Sachs had told me we would IPO in a year.  That wasn’t going to happen.  But I signed up for making the company work and sometimes that commitment trumps your current economic incentives.  Not forever – but for a period of time.  Taking money = obligation and commitment to try your best to make a return.

How should you deal with a business that isn’t working?  I’m not talking about when your product isn’t working, but your company.  When you know that you don’t have a future.

  • Get your cost base as low as you can as quickly as you can
  • Communicate early to investors that you don’t think the business can be successful.  Make sure you say you haven’t given up and that you’ll stay to help find a way to find the best possible outcome for the company.  But that you don’t want to raise any more hard earned money if you’re convinced that new money won’t have a good return
  • Consider whether there are any buyers for the company.  If not, are there buyers of the intellectual property?
  • In the worst case scenario is there a “face saving” exit for $1 somewhere?  This will save everybody from the time, expense and risks of a bankruptcy
  • Remember that legally the order of payments (I’m not a lawyer, double check with a bankruptcy lawyer) is employees, creditors, equity holders
  • Better that you handle things until the bitter end and preserve your most valuable asset – your reputation
  • There is nothing wrong with saying respectfully to investors, “if I can find a buyer for this asset would you be willing for me to take a very small piece of the purchase price so that I can incentivize my team to stay together through this difficult period?
  • If the company needs a very small amount of money to get through this shut down period you should ask your investors for it.  Make sure to tell them that it is for a shut down and/or attempt to recover value for the assets.  Tell them you’ll only ask once.  Only ask once.
  • Make sure your employees know what is going on.  You have an ethical responsibility not to surprise them.  MAKE SURE that you pay all of their expense reports that are outstanding.  In the dark days of shut downs I’ve seen many junior members get burned.  This is wrong.

So can somebody with better branding skills than I please come up with the new term that we can all use for what we all know we want to see – customer development, MVP, rapid iteration, pivot and learn.

OK, now you can attack me …

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  • Hey, how about "Fail fastest?" No? "Fail fasterer?"
  • honam
    Mark, for some reason my original comment to your post seems to have disappeared. As promised I wrote a post with more thoughts on this topic. Also, wrote about the great "fail fast" story I mentioned earlier.

    http://www.blog.altosventures.com/vc/2010/03/fa...
  • the_real_fujun
    Completely agree fail fast doesn't equal to no thoughtfulness, no tenacity, etc. However, I do think there is a time element here beyond launch and learn, especially for consumer internet companies. I look at the big success in consumer internet: Facebook, Zynga, Twitter, etc. They all got traction fairly fast (Twitter after completely changing their business). If I were an entrepreneur, I would launch and learn and iterate as much as possible, but I would also go for a different idea if the metrics aren't there after a few years. Caveat: I am sure there are many startups that succeed even if they didn't take off within the first couple of years, but the large success stories seem to have break out fairly fast. Any counter examples?
  • joeyflores
    This has poker analogy written all over it to me.

    Sometimes you hear tournament players say that they play aggressive and loose at the beginning of a tournament because they'd rather bust out early and not waste hours playing than go into the later rounds with a smaller stack. This is a great strategy for conserving time, but a terrible one for conserving money.

    Good players play tight, wait for good hands, and then shove when they've got the best of it. That's how businesses should be run - conserve money and spend when you've got the nuts.

    Failing Fast might be a good way to describe one hand, meaning fold quickly when you know you're beat and move onto the next hand, but not your whole strategy. I would agree with Mark that, without the proper disclaimers, Failing Fast sounds like a bust-out quick tournament strategy - not a sane way to run a business. It might be easy to say, but what good is a two-word descriptor of a business strategy that sends half of the crowd in the wrong direction?
  • skillguru
    Which entrepreneur thinks that his or her idea is going to fail ? Will anyone fund an entrepreneur who does not believe in himself or his idea ? So where did this mantra came from .
    I think it came from VC's and angels and it is under their guidance when the team starts to build focus and vision on what could be reality and a business which makes sense.
    If a team is not open to suggestions and be ready to change , it is definitely not a good sign.

    What Mark says holds true for those individuals who think that they will create something viral , will have lots of traffic and think of business plan. If this works well , if not then something else.

    It is always good to approach a VC once an entrepreneur has validated his idea. The business plan may change depending on market conditions , competition and users response but not with mindset of failing fast.
  • Gerald
    Just found your blog and thoroughly enjoy it, thank you. I am a co-founder in a startup with little financial modeling experience. Where would you recommend someone with a startup go to get practical financial knowledge for a non-financial manager? Thanks,
    @gesco
  • I couldn't agree more Mark. In my mind the "Fail Fast" theory should be applied within a business regarding certain strategies such as which sectors are most profitable and which marketing tactics are most effective.

    These types of milestone and metric driven pass or fail tactics can help a business right their path fast and get to profitability. The idea that a business can be tested and proven quickly is wrong... mostly wrong because most successful businesses had to adjust several times before they found the path that took them from interesting to highly profitable.

    Too many times terms get thrown around that have negative impact in the investment and entrepreneurial community.
  • thereviewguy
    hmm, can't find the previous comment and your reply...anyhow, Paul graham's comment about starting up a project without first thinking about "business model" can be seen in his article "be good" http://paulgraham.com/good.html
  • jadebourelle
    You are right on track.

    I have seen much more success from adjusting what is not working and driving to success by sticking with it.

    I have seen much more failure from "re-inventing" new strategies every 6 months because the last one was "failing fast" versus understanding why and adjusting. Chasing shiny objects because the current idea is getting to the hard part .... this flipping around is the largest destroyer of investor capital that there is....
  • jimmurphy
    Honestly, people. I thought everyone knew that "Fail Fast" is jargon for learn and don't keep full power on the reality distortion field for too long. "Fail" is language used to motivate a pivot not fold the company. Sheesh.
  • Paul Dyson
    Unfortunately I've met at least two people who don't understand this.
  • great stuff. A startup is not - as they say on Wall Street - a "trade"; something to be gotten into quickly and out of just as quickly if there is a whiff that the theory is not working. For every YouTube that takes off quickly it would seem that there are 100x as many that tried and learned and pivoted and learned and eventually succeeded after staring into the abyss of failure a few too many times for the sake of sanity. The YouTube's of the world are the ones that are heralded and lauded by the media but its the other stories are the real guts and glory stuff if you ask me
  • Great to see this article. As a technology entrepreneur I have two problems with fail fast in addition to the excellent points you make.

    Philosophically the problem with fail fast is the focus on failure. Where's the "play to win"? Where's the grit, determination and balls to make things work? In short, where's the entrepreneurship? In my previous business our mantra was "don't minimise the risks of failure, maximise the chances of success". The great thing about MVP, rapid iteration, pivot and learn is that this is not a 'death or glory' approach but rather a series of small, positive, informed steps.

    Practically the problem with fail fast is its just so easy to fail in a start-up business. You get your first release ready but you need to sign a customer. You get your first customer but that's not enough to support your business. You grow your customer base but you're struggling to balance company growth with sales growth. And so on ... its often hard to see what 'success' actually looks like. If at each of these points you're actively look to call "failure" because that means you have succeed in failing fast, you might as well not bother. Save your money, your time, and that of your partners and customers and go and get a job for a management consultancy where you will get paid to spout crap like "fail fast".
  • Mark, spot on. I nominate "accelerate discovery" as the replacement mantra. The essence of "fail fast" may have had good intentions but I agree that it will be misinterpreted by people who weren't in the room when it was coined.

    I read a great book recently called "Getting to Plan B" and I'm 3 chapters into another one, "4 steps to the Epiphany" - both are recommending the same advice only with different vocabulary: prove/refute hypotheses as early as possible so you can uncover the truth about your assumptions and react accordingly. Customer development, Plan B, pivoting - whatever you want to call it, it's about chipping away all the uncertainty that obfuscates the optimal model.

    sean
  • It's a shame that "Fail Fast" is now being misinterpreted to the point you're describing. I do think this is an effect of being in Silicon Valley. In other markets (such as Montreal where I'm based) we don't see enough entrepreneurship, in part because of a fear of failure. So working to make failure more acceptable (or at least help people understand the benefits of trying, even if the result is failure) is important.

    As for what to call "this whole thing" I'd be careful about "Launch - Learn" as well. To me that says "Just launch something as fast as you can and figure it out after that." That's also extremely dangerous because it lets entrepreneurs believe they can just launch something without any upfront research. In fact, if I was interpreting that language I'd say it goes against your point on the importance of planning.

    So I'd propose - "Learn - Launch - Learn" or "Plan - Launch - Learn" - which basically means:

    * do your homework
    * launch quickly
    * learn after

    (It's just not the sexiest language in the world!)

    If a startup launches with little to no preliminary "homework" phase I'd be very worried. When people pitch me ideas, I don't tell them, "Go build that!" I tell them, "Go do your homework." But do it quickly and aggressively so you can either "fail fast" or move on.

    And regarding "fail fast" I actually believe it really means, "fail before you even start building something". The point being that in the "homework phase" if you can't get past certain clear gates (do people have a problem you're solving, can you make money, etc.) you don't go forward (and consequently you haven't built anything, you haven't raised dough, you don't have customers - so you're not causing the harm you describe.)

    Finally, I do have to echo some other people's comments with respect to the fact that if entrepreneurs have so grossly misinterpreted "fail fast" as to be wanton with investors' money, employees, customers, etc. -- if that's truly their attitude -- then they're not ready to build companies, raise money and be successful. They have to "do their homework" simple as that...
  • Agree entirely. And I've lived in places that don't tolerate failure and I think tolerance of failure is what makes Silicon Valley a unique place. That's different from encouraging fast failure or cavalier failure. And, yes, like you I believe in failing in the research (homework) phase
  • Wow, I didn't think this post would generate this much heat around the blogosphere. I think the issue here is simple, and that is that most people that read this blog are infatuated with "Lean Startup" and take "failing fast" as part of their mantra. And so poor Mark, who posts a very simple point, gets attacked because of the misinterpretation of these readers. The "failing" has nothing to do with pivoting or iterating or whatever you want to call it, it has to do with not just giving up first try. Mark makes a great point in one of his comments below

    "The fact remains - many young entrepreneurs these days are building FNACs (features, not companies) and many smart investors know and lament this."

    This is the main issue at hand, that most new entrepreneurs are not building companies anymore, they are merely building a new analytics/marketing/social/retweet etc... feature that is not a viable business. If it hits it is luck. That's why these new entrepreneurs believe in just tossing it out and "failing" when it doesn't work out. There is no fight, no determination in the people that believe this. The number one thing lacking is integrity, which Mark wrote a post on previously. This is the issue, not the criticism of any "learning practice".

    Excellent post and thanks for being such an realistic VC, it's nice to see.
  • Thanks, Spencer. Yes, "lean startup" people are now religious. And like religion when you question a particular tenet you're likely to be attacked personally. It's OK, I have thick skin. I'm not always right but I'm willing to debate in the spirit of moving the discussion along. I appreciate your words of support and wisdom at the ripe age of 18!

    Also, I love your bio! http://futurephilanthropreneur.wordpress.com/ab...
  • Hi Mark,

    Thanks for taking a look at the blog. Thanks for liking the bio, I know it's a little short on content and I was thinking about changing it. But seeing as you like it, it will stay :D.

    You are completely correct, "lean startup" people are now a bit of a cult. I always read what Steve Blank, Eric Ries, Sean Ellis, Dave McClure and Brant Cooper have to say, but I still form my own opinions. There is no guidebook to success and unfortunately people are looking to LS as that easy path. They have gone iteration/fail fast crazy. Nothing wrong with learning and pivoting, but there has to be a product need there in the first place.

    I am currently writing a post on something equally as "religious", the case for a non-technical founder running a startup. Like you, I'm not always right, but it provokes good discussion.

    Keep up the good work!
  • OSU_Matt
    Hey, great post Mark. As a future entrepreneur, I think your point is extremely valuable on multiple levels. First, I think having the committment to all sources of money (whether friends/family, angel, or venture) and really looking out for their best interest 100% is crucial to gaining LONG-TERM credibility, even if your first deal doesn't work. I'm glad you mention how you stuck with it in your first company even after it looked like YOU weren't going to get everything, and I assume this helped you in a multitude of ways for your second venture. Also, it is a good reminder (sobering in some regards) on how difficult success is and the sacrifices good/honest/successful entrepreneurs make, especially when I know many of us aspiring entrepreneurs just focus on how whatever we do will be a huge hit and everything will be glorious. Again, keep up the great blogging, I am learning a ton from reading it.
  • Thanks, OSU Matt!
  • thereviewguy
    Paul Graham encourages to build startups/products that are more like non-profit, ie. build the product, without worrying too much about business model: it seems to be opposite to what you believe. But I do believe both ways work: they just work for different types of entrepreneurs. I will post a blog entry on 2above.com later about "visionary and opportunist"
  • Paul is a smart and successful guy who is to be admired. But if he said this then I'll have to disagree on this point. Thank you for pointing it out.
  • thereviewguy
    Paul graham's comment about starting up a project without first thinking about "business model" can be seen in his article "be good" http://paulgraham.com/good.html
  • susanabbott
    I guess if we modified it to "fail fast and cheaply" it might connect to the ideas you are proposing, which I think are excellent.
    I interviewed with a couple of startups in the dot con era -- and when I asked how they were going to make money, they told me I didn't get it, and no one wanted profits, they wanted "brand building" "internet land grabs"and "cash burn".
    So some of this problem was created by the funders.

    Nevertheless, this is excellent advice and a good read too.
  • Thanks, Susan. I believe that 10 years from now "fail fast" will sound as dumb as the stuff we all said in the late 90's. Thing is, I'm older and wiser now ;-)
  • This is a very insightful post. Managers, co-founders or not, should bear in mind they have a fiduciary duty towards investors and other legal responsibilities towards employees and other stakeholders. This is true whether your company has been making losses for years in a row or aiming towards being the next Microsoft.
    When I was CEO/co-founder of an IT company that went out of money, with my partners having bailed out as they needed to get jobs, I stuck around, got a legal process under way that made sure employees would get proper settlements, negotiated with a big IT player to hire our employees and transfer our hardware lease (which was secured and we couldn't afford otherwise). I then spent the next 4 years (while working) negotiating with creditors in order to properly close the company, avoiding to file for bankruptcy. Very tough times, quite draining, but at least I can look back and know that not only did I learn much, but I also did the right thing.
  • Well done. Been there.
  • tomthom
    I don't think you understand what that memo meant when it said "fail fast". I believe the logic behind it is what you pointed out above as "test it up front and pivot if you’re not getting the traction you had expected". I believe your quick pivoting is what they meant by "fail fast".
  • kevinJs
    Mark regarding a different positioning - Instead of the negative frame of mind (i.e. fail fast), I like to take a more positive spin (create and iterate). Whatever you initially create might not work. I guess you can call this your "failure." From there, figure out why it didn't work and change it. Sounds naive, but it's just how I roll...

    I like the idea of a financial model vs. a verbose bplan. Anyone have any templates/examples they want to share (with confidential & proprietary data omitted of course)?
  • I'm seeing more typos this time around... is it ADD or too much caffeine or what?
  • Please point them out!
  • We're just all failing fast in our comments, dude.

    ;-)
  • philsugar
    One of my favorite quotes:

    "You don't learn how to win by getting a yes-You learn to win by getting a no"

    I have no problem if you are trying to learn....if this is what "fast failure" means great....i.e. figure out why people won't buy and pivot until they do...

    I propose: "Find Failures Fast"

    This is what I've always said is the start-ups greatest value.....we can make a decision and figure out it is wrong and iterate three times, before a big company even starts to make a decision. Yes, the first three were wrong, but since we learned the fourth is right.

    The big company hasn't even made a decision.
  • Phillip Morelock
    I love that you're taking a MORAL stand here. It's important. It matters.
  • Thanks, Phillip. appreciate it.
  • I'm glad you expanded on this, because your initial post didn't convey your point well. This is much clearer.

    Despite this, I'm still for staying with "fail fast". The emperor, in this case, does have clothes. Too negative an attitude toward failure means that people put off finding out whether or not their idea is any good. Which, as you know, makes them more likely to fail in the long run, and fail big. Silicon Valley has made that mistake a lot.

    Too many people are still to obsessed with looking good and stroking their egos to give up on promoting Edison's positive attitude to failed experiments yet. Hooray failure!

    If you want a catchy new phrase to capture your point, how about "fail fast, fail often"? Or "fail fast but well"?
  • I don't have any problem with failure. I have a problem with a culture of "fail fast" which implies move on if what you've built isn't working. I believe in trying to make things work. In the end if they don't, you move on and learn. But you move on slowly and responsibly.
  • Well, that may be what some people infer from the phrase, but that's definitely not what I imply when I say it, or what a lot of other people mean. It sounds like lazy, irresponsible people are using a perfectly good phrase as a fig leaf.

    To my mind, failing fast is part of trying to make things work. "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again" is the saying. But to try again, you have to fail first. And given the frequency with which bold new ideas are somehow wrong, it's best to fail fast, no? This is important to me, because I've seen a lot of needless slow and expensive failures.

    I think by going after the phrase, which is meant to sum up a useful and important idea, you are riling up the people who support that idea, while not doing much to reign in the irresponsible jerks that you have a problem with. Rather than negating and opposing, have you considered an embrace-and-extend approach?

    (P.S. Disqus's Twitter login is now broken for me. Don't know if that's related to the other Disqus problems you mention.)
  • honam
    I agree that the "fail fast" mantra is about "launch and learn", not about giving up on your company. People have twisted the words to justify moving on to the next company after you've determined you can't get a big win after blowing through "other people's money."

    It's easy to get the two concepts mixed up. In the early 1990s, I made the biggest mistake of my career passing on an investment in Ascend (by 1999, Ascend reached a market cap of $16B and merged with Lucent at a deal valued at over $20B). I was just an Associate back then so perhaps it was not 100% my decision but I made the recommendation to pass because after studying the market, I came to the conclusion that the initial product would fail (ISDN modems and concentrators). The ISDN market never took off, so I was right. The first product was a failure. I later learned that the 2nd product was also a failure. But the team and investors (led by Dick Kramlich at NEA) stuck with it. The 3rd product was a huge hit and companies like AOL, UUNET and other ISPs bought their products by the truckload.

    I should clarify that passing on the deal was a huge mistake NOT because it turned out to be a huge winner but because we LOVED the team. It was one of the best teams I had ever met in my venture career and the entire partnership (at Trinity Ventures) loved the team but still passed on the deal. BIG MISTAKE! The early stage venture business is all backing great people, not about products. Great entrepreneurs learn and iterate; they don't quit and move on so easily.

    Fail fast means launch and learn while staying lean and mean so that you have time to iterate. It does not mean the company is going to fail!

    That said, I have a great story of "fail fast" when it is (sometimes) the right answer to shut down and move on. Probably the best story I've ever heard on the topic. I'll save it for a blog post someday. In the meantime, I really appreciated the advice on your post about what do do and how to shut down responsibly. Failure of companies as well as products is part of life in the start-up world. Your post does a great job of acknowledging that as well so I thought it was balanced, while being very passionate and emphatic! Great job.
  • Thank you, Honam. And please ping me when you write your post.
  • Matt McKnight
    "Then let’s call this “launch and learn” as well as “adjust and pivot” when adoption doesn’t happen."

    So what you are saying is that you AGREE with what people actually mean when they say "fail fast". Which is better, fail fast or fail slow? I think you are saying, "don't stretch fail fast for products to the companies that create them." Simple enough, this long rant just subtracts from that point.
  • I agree with the ideas that people had when they created the mantra. It's just that others have taken on the tag line and taken it out of context. Many people have taken it out of context. I think it's time to rebrand it. That's all. My "rant" comes from the cavalier attitude I have seen displayed by some entrepreneurs towards shutting something down quickly and easily if it doesn't work.
  • I agree in MVP. I agree in customer involvement. I agree in pivoting if your product wasn't well designed. I agree that if eventually you're not successful failure isn't a black mark against you. I just don't believe in giving up easily. I know it wasn't part of the "fail fast" mantra but it is how some people interpret that statement.
  • Mark,

    I responded to your post on my blog, but I see that many of my points have already been discussed here already. But one critical point remains.

    It is truly unconscionable to question the fiduciary duty of an entrepreneur to his friends and family. That is a low blow, and you ought to apologize for it. An entrepreneur has only one life, and it is often 200%+ committed to his or her company. If anyone should be accused of throwing spaghetti, it would seem it should be the one with the portfolio of companies.

    I love your blog, and I value your insights. Thanks for raising a hornets nest of important issues, and I am glad that you are engaging with the commentors because I think that you're on the wrong side of several important issues (even if your heart seems in the right place).
  • Michael, I didn't insult anybody personally so an apology isn't warranted. The fact remains - many young entrepreneurs these days are building FNACs (features, not companies) and many smart investors know and lament this. I haven't insulted anybody individually including you. Please stop with your extreme Tweets and statements attacking me and I'm happy to engage in a sensible debate with you. Investors are not all good. I've never claimed that.
  • I think it was Steve Jobs that said, "those overnight successes sure take a long time." From my vantage point, there are many great companies that started heading off in one direction then changed direction and ended up doing something related but different. I have not made a study of it, but I think more of my clients have had material midcourse corrections than have executed on the original vision. If fail fast robs you of the opportunity to pivot, it takes away a lot of your chances for ultimate success.
  • Totally reasonable - we followed your advice and it works.
  • Great article. Thanks for writing!

    The fail fast mantra is too broad and general. It should only apply to products and CEOs before investment is made. Make as many mistakes as possible early, to make success later.
  • Thanks for quoting my comment in your post and thanks again for explaining your thoughts!

    Yes, the comment was deliberately provocative but I did post another comment where I made the distinction between "failing fast" and "giving up". They're not the same.

    I see that we agree on most things, and yes, the term "fail fast" can certainly be misinterpreted. I recognize the same eagerness to disrupt the old ways of doing things from the early days of eXtreme Programming and the agile movement. Sometimes that eagerness goes too far.

    Still, I do believe that startups should be built like a learning system that includes safe failures. A startup, by definition, lives in uncertainty and must be able to explore different business models.

    Exploring = learning = failing and improving.

    I would actually turn it around and say that an investor that assumes your business model will be the same two years from now as it is today is probably hurting a startup more than helping. Perhaps they should be investing in gold and stocks instead.
  • OK, I'm sure if we talked personally we'd be in violent agreement. I'm not suggesting your business model never changes - obviously. And I'm sure our core belief system about launching, learning, iterating are probably pretty well aligned.
  • philsugar
    To me failing fast means you screw employees, customers, investors, and other entrepreneurs. That's a lot of bad Karma. You are pissing in the entrepreneurial well.

    Once you've done the first four steps outlined and have built a prototype and decide to go to MVP then you are committed.

    I'm fine if you go through those first four steps and decide well this isn't what I thought, as a matter of fact too many people don't take a hard realistic look after they've done these. Many ideas should stop at this point. There should be minimum financial commitment to get to that point, and you don't have employees, customers, and investors.

    Once you take money, hire people, and get customers you are committed. If you fail you are going to seriously screw peoples lives. Think about that.....their LIVES. Yes you can fail, it happens, but you better put absolutely everything you've got not to fail at this point.

    True story: A VP at a bank bought a competitors service, we had no idea how they were going to make money with their model, but they had raised 8 figures from a big well respected Boston VC. Well it turns out they were committed to failing fast. They were talking to this guy on Friday, and the next Tuesday before the Thanksgiving Holiday they just shut it down. The guys bosses, boss had to come back from her vacation as they had to figure out damage control.

    Damn, its hard enough selling as it is because if you're that VP you buy from us and hit it out of the park you get a 5% raise and if you screw up you get fired. He got fired before Christmas. Think he will EVER buy from an entrepreneurial company again?

    They wouldn't even consider our product because we were not a billion dollar company. Hell, I was the one who got screwed the least, but I got screwed. I hate that VC and CEO.

    Think about who really got screwed: "Sorry honey I bought from this entrepreneurial company and they blew up....tell the kids Santa isn't coming this Christmas" You really have to think about that.
  • New term suggestion : 'Alpha phase' - implying that we are in review mode about what the ultimate outcome will be for the project - Google devalued 'beta'. For a product or service it's an alpha field trial .. same sense as 'launch and learn'.
  • By the way this whole business plan/financial model thing is an a propos one for me. Since coming from consulting, all these entrepreneur friends told me, 'don't do the model. you'll get sucked into analysis/paralysis'.

    Since I knew my market (had already done tons of research on size/dynamics) and was bootstrapping a beta I initially figured -- ok -- wouldn't want that to happen. And since I've written a ton of bus plans in my life, seemed like not a big deal because a lot is in my head, I'm like Rainman.

    But eventually, you are bound to hit a wall with this. I did, so now am pulling it together. Thing is if you want to go to market in a big way, you really have to work through the details of resource tradeoffs, prioritize product features as well as go-to-market sequencing. There is no other way to quickly eliminate bad or conflicting ideas. And as your team expands from just you to others, it's the lingua franca.
  • In my mind, you summed up my personal definition of fail fast when you said:

    "If you validate that there’s a market then go for it! If you don’t believe that your product is resonating then pivot and find one!"

    So, I agree the branding allows the lazy and/or uneducated to be sloppy/immoral. But I'm not sure why the term has to be modified vs. people's behavior. If somebody really thinks that "fail fast" means they can/should take somebody's money and quickly lose it, they are bound to fail. I can tell you ask anybody that uses that term what they mean by it, and if you don't like the answer, you're moving on. I'm sure most VC's will do the same thing. Just like when you hear "first market mover advantage", "hockey stick growth", "we have no competitors", etc.

    Just like any buzzword/phrase, you have to get to the heart of their intent. So does it really matter if we "launch and learn" or "fail fast" as long as we're being fair to our investors/customers/employees, making smart and quick decisions, but not pulling the trigger too quickly? I was frankly really surprised at how you were describing people's definition of "fail fast" - I was expecting more shades of gray between what it should mean and how people interpret it, but if you are right in terms of how people are interpreting the phrase they are just plain wrong. Changing the phrase won't help those people be more successful, IMHO.
  • dereklicciardi
    I always thought that the "Fail Fast" comments were out of sync with something. I could never quite put my finger on it until now. The problem with fail fast is that company you just built has customers and employees. Killing a product happens. Let's face it, sometimes the product just doesn't work. Failing fast seems to imply a very abrupt, most likely improper end to the product regardless of how it impacts customers and employees. I would think that focusing on the fast aspect would hurt your reputation with the customers and employees you have.

    From the customer standpoint, they are not only paying customers but they're most likely your evangelists. I know this is the case in game development where a few customers will latch on to your game, get to know your developers through the game's community and become very attached to the product that you're building. If you're successful, these customers will tell everyone they know to start using your service/product. If you fail and cut them off at the waist, how will they not feel slighted? How will they trust your reputation when they learn your behind another startup six months later?

    It only gets worse with employees. Not only do you have an ethical responsibility to these employees but you also have their lives in your hand. To so casually think about killing a business is to disregard the faith and trust that these employees, AND THEIR FAMILIES have given you. Every spouse worries about the other half that adds risk to paying for food and shelter. Your venture adds that risk and I'm almost to the point where I want to talk with the spouse before hiring someone into my startup. At the very least, I ask if their spouse is on board with the idea of them working for a startup.

    In my opinion, you can only fail as fast as your customers and employees will accept it and that it's better to have a vision with a financial plan from the start than simply starting and seeing how it goes. When you hire, you take on a responsibility that slows down failing. When you obtain your first customer you take on a responsibility that slows down failing. Your reputation which directly impacts your ability to pivot to earn a return is at stake.
  • ben
    wow. can't agree more on the article and the comments

    if 'failing fast' becomes the culture of startups, how can we expect customers to trust new companies
  • thank you, thank you, thank you
  • Totally agree!!!

    The entrepreneur/leader should have a very difficult time killing the business, if s/he takes his/her customers, employees partners and investors seriously. If they don't, then something is seriously wrong.

    If they're failing fast on their own dime (or mommy and daddy's) and have no customers -- that's fine with me, I don't really care. In that case as far as I'm concerned they can forecast the business with astrology, tarot cards or a sundial. But if i'm investing or joining as a hire? Need rigor and responsibility.
  • dereklicciardi
    Clicked through to your blog. Finally, I find someone that recognizes the simple genius that is Doofenschmirtz. And yes, I do have my own evil plan to take over the tri-state area.

    http://phineasandferb.wikia.com/wiki/Heinz_Doof...

    I'm a parent that has Disney channel logos burnt into his TV. *shrug*
  • Thanks, Derek. I was going to go back and edit my post to add employees but now that you've covered it so well I think I'll leave it. Thank you.
  • Mark - spot on. Two thoughts to add. First, this "fail fast" is even worse than you identify b/c it's become an excuse for team members to quit when the going gets tough. Didn't take off as fast as Facebook? Let's quit. The downside to being in Silicon Valley (if not L.A.) is everyone thinks (and perhaps does) have so many options. Second, almost all companies take longer and are a lot harder than anyone thought. Facebook? Maybe not. Odeo -> Twitter SMS -> Twitter Today? Certainly. All four of the start-ups I've founded / been part of have "failed quickly", yet then gone on to longer-term success through hard work.
  • Great points - thanks for adding. I think "fail fast" is more of a problem in Silicon Valley than elsewhere. That includes CEO's and the employees. I think most great businesses went through some amount of adversity before finding their way.
  • Roko
    We will fail fast = We don't know anything about what we are doing.

    Pivot fast instead, or even better yet "fail before you’ve spent any money building product". This one will go on my wall. But here is a problem. Last fall I sat down and called nearly 300 dentists offices to gauge demand for a product I had in mind. The problem ends up being that the sample size maybe too small, you spend a lot of time talking to people who cannot draw a mental picture, and it's time consuming. Depending on the problem market research can be more expensive than building a simple simple prototype.
  • Yes, agreed that market research can be expensive in fragmented markets. I like the "launch and learn" approach with a minimum viable product (MVP) because it's easier for people to give you real feedback when they experiment with your product rather than answer questionnaires.
  • mcoffin
    "DISQUS Comment System is under construction. Please try again later". when i try and use facebook connect
  • Sorry. I'll ping Daniel and let him know. Thanks for pointing out. Update: This Disqus team is now investigating this.
  • dongooding
    I think of it as "Least Cost Validation" - not as alliterative as "Fail Fast," unfortunately, but it gets the word "fail" out of there. Start-ups test many hypotheses, and the goal ought to be to use as little time and money as possible to prove or disprove them (market, product, people, business model...).

    I'm wondering if home run-focused VCs are as guilty as entrepreneurs in believing the interpretation of "Fail Fast" that you wrote about. If so, no wonder impressionable new entrepreneurs think it's the model to follow. But I can't believe that the "Disposable Ventures" brand (turning Fail Fast into more of an epithet) is culturally sustainable over the long term - if you believe everything with respect to your venture/investment is disposable, it means you are, too.
  • Yeah, "least cost validation" is better. I also like, "launch and learn" because it implies the following to me: 1) get product MVP out the door 2) listen to your customers and 3) adjust based on feedback
  • Launch and learn is so much better. Ultimately the idea is to make progress by doing something, seeing the mistakes, and learning how to fix them so you don't fail. The concept is invaluable and one that isn't necessarily obvious to first time entrepreneurs (speaking from experience) so rebranding it to be more about progress than failure is awesome.

    I would add an element of speed though - launch and learn quickly. It doesn't sound as good but getting though the dead ends, mistakes, and unknowns as quickly as possible is key to making it.
  • I like Launch and Learn too. That's catchy.
  • "Succeed fast": I think that's the essence of what intelligent people talk about when calling it "Fail fast." Sadly, as you point out so well, this has become a mindless mantra and lost all relevance for most people regurgitating it as a startup model.

    To me, the fail part of the equation has always meant to fail an assumption early for the benefit of gaining an early opportunity to pivot your company / product in a successful direction. ie. losing battles to win the war. Zynga's "ghetto testing" is a good example.
  • I think that initially people understood "failure" as getting market feedback early so that you can correct your product, pricing, positioning, etc. It's just that people have morphed the definition.
  • You are so right (and it is quite annoying) when a good idea looses it's original meaning and just becomes mindless chatter.
  • Great post, Mark. I'm sitting here laughing (in a good way) at Reece because I intro'd him to a customer. One which is he screwed up a whole bunch of people I've known for a long time would know.

    So first of all -- Reece you reading this? -- don't screw up. ;-) And I am extremely pleased to hear he takes that responsibility seriously. (I felt he would, but you never do know).

    Second, I am reminded every day of how small the world is. How there are multiple paths of people who can reference you, and call our dark spots on you. It doesn't pay to be anything less than balls-on serious about other people's money. If an entrepreneur is cavalier, it will be found out, and affect downstream options.
  • I'm reading you loud and clear Tereza! ;)
  • worth re-editing your comment to change "is" to "if" in your second sentence as the definition dramatically changes and I think it's what you intended. I'm just catching you for catching my "retribution" mistake last week ;-) Was nice to meet you in person last week.
  • Yikes! You are right but pesky DISQUS isn't letting me change! grrrr....

    Yes was fab meeting you! Oh, check out Dangerous Book for Boys if you didn't yet (ask Tania). You will enjoy.
  • the 'fail fast' mantra does have a terrible tone and does give off a sense of irreverence over the money and investors funds which was used to do so.

    I do think however that the sentiment of fail fast is correct its just like you say terribly branded.
  • I agree with you 100%
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