Comments on: Why The ‘Fail Fast’ Mantra Needs to Fail, Fast http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/ Entrepreneur turned VC Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:37:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Correo http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-22521 Correo Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:05:23 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-22521 Adding on to Peter and Thomas's posts, the point of using the word fail or any derivative of failure is that you learn from failures. You start out with a hypothesis and you work to prove that hypothesis wrong. It is the process of how learning occurs. Adding on to Peter and Thomas's posts, the point of using the word fail or any derivative of failure is that you learn from failures. You start out with a hypothesis and you work to prove that hypothesis wrong. It is the process of how learning occurs.

]]> By: Hoteles http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-22201 Hoteles Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:14:55 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-22201 Yes, agreed that market research can be expensive in fragmented markets. I like the "launch and learn" approach with a minimum viable product (MVP) because it's easier for people to give you real feedback when they experiment with your product rather than answer questionnaires. Yes, agreed that market research can be expensive in fragmented markets. I like the “launch and learn” approach with a minimum viable product (MVP) because it's easier for people to give you real feedback when they experiment with your product rather than answer questionnaires.

]]> By: sebastian concept >>> http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-21010 sebastian concept >>> Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:25:03 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-21010 yes... yes... (eyes rolling) the literal interpretation of "celebrating failure" issue.<br><br>Of course you don't have to fail. Of course you have to succeed (who needs more pressure on that?).<br><br>The whole point of "celebrating failure" is for de-dramatizing and removing panic to make mistakes that most people, or wannabe entrepreneurs, have.<br><br>If you are going to think of fail as mantra, then I agree you better don't do that (otherwise you might be a successful fail achiever).<br> yes… yes… (eyes rolling) the literal interpretation of “celebrating failure” issue.

Of course you don't have to fail. Of course you have to succeed (who needs more pressure on that?).

The whole point of “celebrating failure” is for de-dramatizing and removing panic to make mistakes that most people, or wannabe entrepreneurs, have.

If you are going to think of fail as mantra, then I agree you better don't do that (otherwise you might be a successful fail achiever).

]]> By: Blake http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-11309 Blake Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:59:23 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-11309 Hey, how about "Fail fastest?" No? "Fail fasterer?" Hey, how about “Fail fastest?” No? “Fail fasterer?”

]]> By: Blake http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-5262 Blake Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:59:23 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-5262 Hey, how about "Fail fastest?" No? "Fail fasterer?" Hey, how about “Fail fastest?” No? “Fail fasterer?”

]]> By: Blake http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-5261 Blake Thu, 25 Mar 2010 03:59:23 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-5261 Hey, how about "Fail fastest?" No? "Fail fasterer?" Hey, how about “Fail fastest?” No? “Fail fasterer?”

]]> By: honam http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-11310 honam Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:01:50 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-11310 Mark, for some reason my original comment to your post seems to have disappeared. As promised I wrote a post with more thoughts on this topic. Also, wrote about the great "fail fast" story I mentioned earlier. <br><br><a href="http://www.blog.altosventures.com/vc/2010/03/fail-fast-pivot-or-walk-away.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blog.altosventures.com/vc/2010/03/fa...</a> Mark, for some reason my original comment to your post seems to have disappeared. As promised I wrote a post with more thoughts on this topic. Also, wrote about the great “fail fast” story I mentioned earlier.

http://www.blog.altosventures.com/vc/2010/03/fa…

]]> By: honam http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-5260 honam Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:01:50 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-5260 Mark, for some reason my original comment to your post seems to have disappeared. As promised I wrote a post with more thoughts on this topic. Also, wrote about the great "fail fast" story I mentioned earlier. <br><br><a href="http://www.blog.altosventures.com/vc/2010/03/fail-fast-pivot-or-walk-away.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blog.altosventures.com/vc/2010/03/fa...</a> Mark, for some reason my original comment to your post seems to have disappeared. As promised I wrote a post with more thoughts on this topic. Also, wrote about the great “fail fast” story I mentioned earlier.

http://www.blog.altosventures.com/vc/2010/03/fa…

]]> By: the_real_fujun http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-11311 the_real_fujun Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:22:05 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-11311 Completely agree fail fast doesn't equal to no thoughtfulness, no tenacity, etc. However, I do think there is a time element here beyond launch and learn, especially for consumer internet companies. I look at the big success in consumer internet: Facebook, Zynga, Twitter, etc. They all got traction fairly fast (Twitter after completely changing their business). If I were an entrepreneur, I would launch and learn and iterate as much as possible, but I would also go for a different idea if the metrics aren't there after a few years. Caveat: I am sure there are many startups that succeed even if they didn't take off within the first couple of years, but the large success stories seem to have break out fairly fast. Any counter examples? Completely agree fail fast doesn't equal to no thoughtfulness, no tenacity, etc. However, I do think there is a time element here beyond launch and learn, especially for consumer internet companies. I look at the big success in consumer internet: Facebook, Zynga, Twitter, etc. They all got traction fairly fast (Twitter after completely changing their business). If I were an entrepreneur, I would launch and learn and iterate as much as possible, but I would also go for a different idea if the metrics aren't there after a few years. Caveat: I am sure there are many startups that succeed even if they didn't take off within the first couple of years, but the large success stories seem to have break out fairly fast. Any counter examples?

]]> By: the_real_fujun http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/11/the-fail-fast-mantra-needs-to-fail/comment-page-4/#comment-5259 the_real_fujun Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:22:05 +0000 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/?p=2109#comment-5259 Completely agree fail fast doesn't equal to no thoughtfulness, no tenacity, etc. However, I do think there is a time element here beyond launch and learn, especially for consumer internet companies. I look at the big success in consumer internet: Facebook, Zynga, Twitter, etc. They all got traction fairly fast (Twitter after completely changing their business). If I were an entrepreneur, I would launch and learn and iterate as much as possible, but I would also go for a different idea if the metrics aren't there after a few years. Caveat: I am sure there are many startups that succeed even if they didn't take off within the first couple of years, but the large success stories seem to have break out fairly fast. Any counter examples? Completely agree fail fast doesn't equal to no thoughtfulness, no tenacity, etc. However, I do think there is a time element here beyond launch and learn, especially for consumer internet companies. I look at the big success in consumer internet: Facebook, Zynga, Twitter, etc. They all got traction fairly fast (Twitter after completely changing their business). If I were an entrepreneur, I would launch and learn and iterate as much as possible, but I would also go for a different idea if the metrics aren't there after a few years. Caveat: I am sure there are many startups that succeed even if they didn't take off within the first couple of years, but the large success stories seem to have break out fairly fast. Any counter examples?

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