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		<title>By: IMD OWP</title>
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		<dc:creator>IMD OWP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are new strategic challenges for the global firm. These challenges include: (i) market opportunities migrating to rapidly emerging economies in the East; (ii) the long shadow of the financial crisis and the rising prominence of sovereign wealth funds; and (iii) the urgent imperative to deal with climate change and to include a larger number of stakeholders in the firm&#039;s growth strategies. The &lt; a href=”http://link.imd.ch/wjwgj&quot;target=”_blank”&gt;IMD OWP 2010 &lt;/a&gt; devotes a session to each of these challenges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are new strategic challenges for the global firm. These challenges include: (i) market opportunities migrating to rapidly emerging economies in the East; (ii) the long shadow of the financial crisis and the rising prominence of sovereign wealth funds; and (iii) the urgent imperative to deal with climate change and to include a larger number of stakeholders in the firm&#39;s growth strategies. The &lt; a href=”http://link.imd.ch/wjwgj&#8221;target=”_blank”&gt;IMD OWP 2010  devotes a session to each of these challenges.</p>
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		<title>By: IMD OWP</title>
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		<dc:creator>IMD OWP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are new strategic challenges for the global firm. These challenges include: (i) market opportunities migrating to rapidly emerging economies in the East; (ii) the long shadow of the financial crisis and the rising prominence of sovereign wealth funds; and (iii) the urgent imperative to deal with climate change and to include a larger number of stakeholders in the firm&#039;s growth strategies. The &lt; a href=”http://link.imd.ch/wjwgj&quot;target=”_blank”&gt;IMD OWP 2010 &lt;/a&gt; devotes a session to each of these challenges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are new strategic challenges for the global firm. These challenges include: (i) market opportunities migrating to rapidly emerging economies in the East; (ii) the long shadow of the financial crisis and the rising prominence of sovereign wealth funds; and (iii) the urgent imperative to deal with climate change and to include a larger number of stakeholders in the firm&#39;s growth strategies. The &lt; a href=”http://link.imd.ch/wjwgj&#8221;target=”_blank”&gt;IMD OWP 2010  devotes a session to each of these challenges.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I agree with your concept from the 30,000 foot view.  When I think of &quot;fail fast&quot;, I regard it as such: if someone gives you $500,000, it is better to waste as little of that money as possible developing a business concept that isn&#039;t going to work, so it is best to find out soon, before you&#039;ve spent $500,000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps the mantra for 2010 will be &quot;Fail CHEAP&quot;.  I work at a startup that has gotten a ton of recent traction.  We have proven our model is scalable and attractive.  It took us about 12 months to arrive at this particular model, and I wish that we could have arrived here much sooner, because we would have preserved much more investor cash.  Luckily for us, we did not have the &quot;rocket fuel&quot; problem, so pivoting was easy and (relatively) inexpensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I agree with your concept from the 30,000 foot view.  When I think of &#8220;fail fast&#8221;, I regard it as such: if someone gives you $500,000, it is better to waste as little of that money as possible developing a business concept that isn&#39;t going to work, so it is best to find out soon, before you&#39;ve spent $500,000.</p>
<p>Perhaps the mantra for 2010 will be &#8220;Fail CHEAP&#8221;.  I work at a startup that has gotten a ton of recent traction.  We have proven our model is scalable and attractive.  It took us about 12 months to arrive at this particular model, and I wish that we could have arrived here much sooner, because we would have preserved much more investor cash.  Luckily for us, we did not have the &#8220;rocket fuel&#8221; problem, so pivoting was easy and (relatively) inexpensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I agree with your concept from the 30,000 foot view.  When I think of &quot;fail fast&quot;, I regard it as such: if someone gives you $500,000, it is better to waste as little of that money as possible developing a business concept that isn&#039;t going to work, so it is best to find out soon, before you&#039;ve spent $500,000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps the mantra for 2010 will be &quot;Fail CHEAP&quot;.  I work at a startup that has gotten a ton of recent traction.  We have proven our model is scalable and attractive.  It took us about 12 months to arrive at this particular model, and I wish that we could have arrived here much sooner, because we would have preserved much more investor cash.  Luckily for us, we did not have the &quot;rocket fuel&quot; problem, so pivoting was easy and (relatively) inexpensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I agree with your concept from the 30,000 foot view.  When I think of &#8220;fail fast&#8221;, I regard it as such: if someone gives you $500,000, it is better to waste as little of that money as possible developing a business concept that isn&#39;t going to work, so it is best to find out soon, before you&#39;ve spent $500,000.</p>
<p>Perhaps the mantra for 2010 will be &#8220;Fail CHEAP&#8221;.  I work at a startup that has gotten a ton of recent traction.  We have proven our model is scalable and attractive.  It took us about 12 months to arrive at this particular model, and I wish that we could have arrived here much sooner, because we would have preserved much more investor cash.  Luckily for us, we did not have the &#8220;rocket fuel&#8221; problem, so pivoting was easy and (relatively) inexpensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Davy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Davy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I agree with your concept from the 30,000 foot view.  When I think of &quot;fail fast&quot;, I regard it as such: if someone gives you $500,000, it is better to waste as little of that money as possible developing a business concept that isn&#039;t going to work, so it is best to find out soon, before you&#039;ve spent $500,000.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps the mantra for 2010 will be &quot;Fail CHEAP&quot;.  I work at a startup that has gotten a ton of recent traction.  We have proven our model is scalable and attractive.  It took us about 12 months to arrive at this particular model, and I wish that we could have arrived here much sooner, because we would have preserved much more investor cash.  Luckily for us, we did not have the &quot;rocket fuel&quot; problem, so pivoting was easy and (relatively) inexpensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I agree with your concept from the 30,000 foot view.  When I think of &#8220;fail fast&#8221;, I regard it as such: if someone gives you $500,000, it is better to waste as little of that money as possible developing a business concept that isn&#39;t going to work, so it is best to find out soon, before you&#39;ve spent $500,000.</p>
<p>Perhaps the mantra for 2010 will be &#8220;Fail CHEAP&#8221;.  I work at a startup that has gotten a ton of recent traction.  We have proven our model is scalable and attractive.  It took us about 12 months to arrive at this particular model, and I wish that we could have arrived here much sooner, because we would have preserved much more investor cash.  Luckily for us, we did not have the &#8220;rocket fuel&#8221; problem, so pivoting was easy and (relatively) inexpensive.</p>
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		<title>By: markslater</title>
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		<dc:creator>markslater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the way i always understood the &#039;fail fast&#039; term was through the lens of a governing feature, not from an entire company point of view. You may start out addressing SMBs where as actually there is consumer potential in what you are doing - therefore shed that SMB skin quickly - or basically have the ability to change your approach quickly - dont be cautious over glaring data suggesting the worng approach - exorcise it from the company DNA and &#039;pivot&#039; quickly as you put it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the way i always understood the &#39;fail fast&#39; term was through the lens of a governing feature, not from an entire company point of view. You may start out addressing SMBs where as actually there is consumer potential in what you are doing &#8211; therefore shed that SMB skin quickly &#8211; or basically have the ability to change your approach quickly &#8211; dont be cautious over glaring data suggesting the worng approach &#8211; exorcise it from the company DNA and &#39;pivot&#39; quickly as you put it.</p>
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		<title>By: markslater</title>
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		<dc:creator>markslater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the way i always understood the &#039;fail fast&#039; term was through the lens of a governing feature, not from an entire company point of view. You may start out addressing SMBs where as actually there is consumer potential in what you are doing - therefore shed that SMB skin quickly - or basically have the ability to change your approach quickly - dont be cautious over glaring data suggesting the worng approach - exorcise it from the company DNA and &#039;pivot&#039; quickly as you put it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the way i always understood the &#39;fail fast&#39; term was through the lens of a governing feature, not from an entire company point of view. You may start out addressing SMBs where as actually there is consumer potential in what you are doing &#8211; therefore shed that SMB skin quickly &#8211; or basically have the ability to change your approach quickly &#8211; dont be cautious over glaring data suggesting the worng approach &#8211; exorcise it from the company DNA and &#39;pivot&#39; quickly as you put it.</p>
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		<title>By: msuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>msuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I agree completely with your last sentence.  The meme doesn&#039;t make a good person bad.  But young people are impressionable.  Many don&#039;t yet know right from wrong in a startup.  I know because in 1999 I launched my first company.  We were encouraged to spend money quickly, do a &quot;land grab&quot; and build many products.  Sounds absurd, right?  It was the mantra back then.  The conventional wisdom.  Goldman Sachs was an investor in my company.  They were confident (as was the whole market) that we would raise a $40 million B round with less than $1 million in revenue.  We were going to IPO in 12 months for North of $1 billion.  What did I know?  Everybody was telling me that&#039;s how things worked.  And for many people that is how things worked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But life changed quickly.  I had to fire most of my friends and colleagues to survive.  122 people to 33 in a few weeks.  Leaving would have been easy. I stuck around and cleaned up the mess.  We built a real company and 5 years later sold it when we were doing $14 million in recurring revenue and had $36 million in backlog.  Not Google, but a result nonetheless.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point: young, inexperienced people who are &quot;responsible&quot; can be fooled into thinking that &quot;this is how business is done.&quot;  I have had people I consider very ethical repeating some of the &quot;fail fast, just shut the business down if it doesn&#039;t work&quot; lines.  I know Hiten and you guys are at the center of the lean startup movement and I have huge respect for everybody involved.  But I think that your closeness to the issue means that you may not realize how the original message has gotten lost in the &quot;Chinese Whispers.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cindy, I&#039;m sure if we sat down one day and compared notes our outlook on startups would be pretty similar.  Lean startup is the right idea.  I&#039;m attacking the phrase, not the core principles.  Thanks for sticking around and debating and keeping it professional.  I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I agree completely with your last sentence.  The meme doesn&#39;t make a good person bad.  But young people are impressionable.  Many don&#39;t yet know right from wrong in a startup.  I know because in 1999 I launched my first company.  We were encouraged to spend money quickly, do a &#8220;land grab&#8221; and build many products.  Sounds absurd, right?  It was the mantra back then.  The conventional wisdom.  Goldman Sachs was an investor in my company.  They were confident (as was the whole market) that we would raise a $40 million B round with less than $1 million in revenue.  We were going to IPO in 12 months for North of $1 billion.  What did I know?  Everybody was telling me that&#39;s how things worked.  And for many people that is how things worked.</p>
<p>But life changed quickly.  I had to fire most of my friends and colleagues to survive.  122 people to 33 in a few weeks.  Leaving would have been easy. I stuck around and cleaned up the mess.  We built a real company and 5 years later sold it when we were doing $14 million in recurring revenue and had $36 million in backlog.  Not Google, but a result nonetheless.  </p>
<p>My point: young, inexperienced people who are &#8220;responsible&#8221; can be fooled into thinking that &#8220;this is how business is done.&#8221;  I have had people I consider very ethical repeating some of the &#8220;fail fast, just shut the business down if it doesn&#39;t work&#8221; lines.  I know Hiten and you guys are at the center of the lean startup movement and I have huge respect for everybody involved.  But I think that your closeness to the issue means that you may not realize how the original message has gotten lost in the &#8220;Chinese Whispers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cindy, I&#39;m sure if we sat down one day and compared notes our outlook on startups would be pretty similar.  Lean startup is the right idea.  I&#39;m attacking the phrase, not the core principles.  Thanks for sticking around and debating and keeping it professional.  I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: cindyalvarez</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I clearly agree that if you take someone&#039;s money (whether it&#039;s VC or friends/family), it&#039;s your responsibility to try your damnedest to reduce risk, validate ideas, and generally try to make the thing work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You tell me you see &quot;CEOs who prefer to &quot;fail fast&quot; so he/she can move on to their next brilliant idea&quot; -- honestly, I don&#039;t doubt you.   There are all kinds out there!  It does seem incomprehensible to me, though -- wouldn&#039;t you want to at least TRY to make your company work?   Try to validate your idea and reduce risk?    All I&#039;m saying is, it seems like it would take more than a provocatively phrased meme to turn a responsible person into an irresponsible one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I clearly agree that if you take someone&#39;s money (whether it&#39;s VC or friends/family), it&#39;s your responsibility to try your damnedest to reduce risk, validate ideas, and generally try to make the thing work.</p>
<p>You tell me you see &#8220;CEOs who prefer to &#8220;fail fast&#8221; so he/she can move on to their next brilliant idea&#8221; &#8212; honestly, I don&#39;t doubt you.   There are all kinds out there!  It does seem incomprehensible to me, though &#8212; wouldn&#39;t you want to at least TRY to make your company work?   Try to validate your idea and reduce risk?    All I&#39;m saying is, it seems like it would take more than a provocatively phrased meme to turn a responsible person into an irresponsible one.</p>
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		<title>By: msuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>msuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>supreme hubris of the Valley: see, &quot;fail fast&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;failure is ok. I have no problem with it.  I&#039;m on record as saying I prefer working with second time entrepreneurs even if their first business failed.  but when you come up with a tag line that says, &quot;fail fast&quot; you can&#039;t expect people to all know what you meant when you created it.  Calling them &quot;incompetent/irresponsible wannabe entrepreneurs who interpret the theory du jour to mean whatever they want it to&quot; is probably not fair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The nice thing about working with entrepreneurs who blindly follow their idea is that if you lose faith you can change jobs.  The contra where you as an employee believes and the CEO prefers to &quot;fail fast&quot; so he/she can move on to their next brilliant idea and make more money is a travesty.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If KISSMetrics launches its analytics platform and users want a different feature set then you pivot - even if 180 degrees.  But if you guys suddenly said, &quot;Eff it.  Analytics is too hard - let&#039;s create a GroupOn competitor&quot; that wouldn&#039;t be fair too Polaris and the money they&#039;ve invested in you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>supreme hubris of the Valley: see, &#8220;fail fast&#8221;</p>
<p>failure is ok. I have no problem with it.  I&#39;m on record as saying I prefer working with second time entrepreneurs even if their first business failed.  but when you come up with a tag line that says, &#8220;fail fast&#8221; you can&#39;t expect people to all know what you meant when you created it.  Calling them &#8220;incompetent/irresponsible wannabe entrepreneurs who interpret the theory du jour to mean whatever they want it to&#8221; is probably not fair.</p>
<p>The nice thing about working with entrepreneurs who blindly follow their idea is that if you lose faith you can change jobs.  The contra where you as an employee believes and the CEO prefers to &#8220;fail fast&#8221; so he/she can move on to their next brilliant idea and make more money is a travesty.  </p>
<p>If KISSMetrics launches its analytics platform and users want a different feature set then you pivot &#8211; even if 180 degrees.  But if you guys suddenly said, &#8220;Eff it.  Analytics is too hard &#8211; let&#39;s create a GroupOn competitor&#8221; that wouldn&#39;t be fair too Polaris and the money they&#39;ve invested in you.</p>
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