Twitter Networks are Different than Social Networks

by Mark Suster on March 15, 2010

coffeehouse meetingIf you use Twitter and think it is a valuable service then you’re probably tired of the steady stream of your friends who tell you it’s just a fad and they don’t feel compelled to join.  They “don’t care what people ate for lunch.”  They’re fine on their existing social networks, which these days mostly means they’re happy with Facebook.  I think they’re missing something.

I’ve covered Twitter topics much in the past.  I’ve talked about how Twitter is a new form of RSS (curated RSS), it’s a a new form of IM / SMS, it’s a place where business is conducted and it’s a place where advertising will drive leads due to the link sharing nature of Twitter.

But Twitter is different than Facebook because it’s more open and it’s asymmetric.  Traditional social networks are more restricted to people whom I already know and information and updates are less discoverable.  And as a result Twitter Networks are currently different in my mind than many other social networks.  Twitter Networks allow you to build open and serendipitous relationships with new people where social networks do not.

Let me give you some examples:

Tristan Walker: I first met Tristan online when he was merely human (e.g. before having 300k followers!).  He had followed me on Twitter and sent me a nice message about my blog.   I always look at who follows me on Twitter.  I can’t follow everybody back because I feel that this would clutter my Twitter stream and make it harder to hear from people I really know or from whom I want to learn.  But I do like to follow some random people that I don’t yet know.  Usually people that I think I might someday get to know.   I tend to to look at their bios, sometimes click on their links, read a bit of their Tweet stream and make a quick decision whether or not to follow.  If over time I don’t find any value in what they say I just unfollow in the future.  So when I saw the merely mortal Tristan with a normal sized Twitter following I clicked through to his link, saw his blog, saw that he was a second year at Stanford and just thought, “hey, he seems like an interesting guy.  Maybe I’ll follow him for a bit.”

The day after I first heard from Tristan I was coincidentally in Palo Alto and had a series of back-to-back meetings in one day.  I had a lunch meeting scheduled with Gadi Shamia, whom I love spending time with, at Shabuway on Castro Street in Mountain View (I only mention it because if, like me, you enjoy Shabu Shabu it’s a great place to go).

But I had an hour to kill before lunch and I was on California Street in Palo Alto.  I sent out a Tweet saying, “I’m in Palo Alto for an hour, anyone want to grab coffee?”  Within 2 minutes I had 5 responses to meet me for coffee.  One of them was Tristan.  So I agreed to meet him at Printer’s Cafe.  We spent an hour together.  I instantly loved the guy.  Great life story.  Energetic.  Ambitious but not too full of himself.  He had just finished a project for Twitter and was doing some side work for a small 5 person company called FourSquare.  If you follow them you’ll know that they’re now on fire and Tristan is now VP Business Development.  It wasn’t always so.  We’ve talked on the phone a few times and trade Tweets but we still only met that one time in person.  Somehow he still feels like an old friend.  Strange, huh?

Brad Feld: I first learned of Brad Feld like many of you – through his blog.  I was raising money for my second company and having been burned by term sheets on my first company I was eager to get myself knowledgeable before signing up to take VC again.  I started reading Brad’s “term sheet” series.  If you haven’t read it and you’re thinking about raising money, it’s a must read.  So when I first signed up for Twitter I naturally subscribed to Brad’s feed.

One day Brad Tweeted he was going to be in LA with his dad.  I generally try not to stalk people I don’t know when they announce they’re in town, but as a fellow VC (and a partner in Southern California’s largest fund), I felt we had a legitimate reason to connect.  As he wasn’t following me at the time I wrote to him with the @ sign as you can do in Twitter.  His father, Dr. Stanley Feld, who writes his own blog and covered the encounter in this post,

Mark Suster twittered Brad on Saturday and asked if he could meet us for breakfast on Sunday. Brad did not know Mark. Brad googled him on his Iphone. He then twittered him a yes at the Mondrian Asia Cuba at 8.30 a.m. It is an instant world out there folks.

The breakfast meeting was wonderful. Again I learned how things are done in the New World.”

It was a great breakfast.  I obviously enjoyed meeting Brad, but I also really enjoyed meeting his father.  Brad was originally from Dallas and his father is still a practicing doctor there.  So is my uncle, Dr. Neal Sklaver.  So I played the usual game of “do you know” and it turns out that they used to have practices in the same building and knew each other well!  Small world.

A few weeks later I was in the Bay Area and  I saw another Tweet from Brad that says that he’s traveling with the governor of Colorado who’s in town to meet with VCs.  I sent a message to Brad saying that I was in town and he invited me to the meeting.  This is back when Brad wasn’t disappointed with the governor ;-)  Anyway, another nice, serendipitous encounter.

Ozumo Sushi:  Final story – a few weeks ago I was traveling to San Francisco and had pre-booked every imaginable hour of every day for the full 5 days I was there.  But I was flying in late on a Sunday night and never like to overbook the first night in case the plane isn’t on time.  So when I arrived late at my hotel I decided to try an experiment.  I sent out a Tweet that I was going to Ozumo Sushi in San Fran and if anyone was around they were willing to join me.  This was obviously more open than my Palo Alto Tweet because I actually named the location.

What a pleasure the night was.  It was late but three people still turned up: Justyn Howard (founder & CEO of Sprout Social), Jamie Quint (founder of a YCombinator company), Saumil Mehta (product lead at Kosmix).  I had known Justyn for a while and he was fortuitously in town from Chicago but I had never met Saumil or Jamie.  We (I?) had a great evening talking tech and startup.  We even had a pretty funny end to the night.  I just spoke with Jamie again today on the phone, which is what made me think to write this post.

The world is now wired, connected and open.  I believe you need to be careful with your public whereabouts more than many other people seem to feel.  But in a controlled way I like to get to know people through my Twitter Network in ways that other social networks don’t do it for me.  I get @ replies from many people I don’t know and I try my best to answer most of them.  If people have meaningful things to say, share good links, participate in the comments in my blog and introduce themselves at events, I look forward to getting to know them over time.  It’s the aspect of my job I love the most – meeting new people, hearing their stories, learning and building enduring relationships.  I find this new, open world very encouraging indeed.

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  • julianhalevy
    Who cares about either twitter or "social networks" ? Not I! But I do find it grating that in your ignorance of English grammar, you use the nonsensical expression "different than," and in your headline, no less. No doubt you received a vaulted degree from some baccalaureate-granting institution that taught you that the correct expression is "different from", or at least exposed you to people who spoke correctly; but no doubt you were too busy texting or twittering or...whatever.
  • I never was a big fan of Facebook or hardly use it. So I've decided to give this a shot after hearing the constant praises of the social and professional benefits it can yield. But so far I'm finding it to be extremely frustrating. I realize the openness of Twitter allows for more scalability than the socially confined FB. Most of my friends use Twitter as an extension of FB. But than I ask myseld: why am I doing this? What's my purpose? And as a result, makes me question who to follow? The ambiguity and overload of information is almost overbearing to me. For example, if I were to use this to find a job or try to break into a new industry, do you refine your posts to just contacting individuals in those areas and type of conversations? Or would people find you to be too socially inept? On the flip side, if your profile is scattered with social chatter with friends, would others see this as someone not too concerned with their professional outlook? And that's not scratching the iceberg, what's the deal with lists? If I create lists for 5 or so new sources, I still have to scour 100+ headlines in a day. How am I supposed to parse out the articles that really matter or are of interest to me?

    Ideally, I would like to use this as a professional networking tool, but I'm not sure ''how". Am I posting a tweet every hour or day? what am I supposed to tweet? who do I tweet directly? Should I be concerned about who's following me, etc. Despite this headache, I'm going to keep working at it and hopefully it'll 'click' someday.
  • Without having read your full post yet I will say this: I find myself currently using Twitter to get a feel for people, to see what they're interested in, to see their intelligence and understanding of things, to see their personality - to see if I like them and would want to do business with them and be associated further. I'm doing this with blogs I'm reading and participating in too. On the other side of things, I hope people will be using it the same way to get a feel for me. You don't really get the same real personality from reading static information on someone's profile.
  • fionacowan
    I was such a Twitter-sceptic at first. But now, I wouldn't be without it for work contacts and information gathering. Through Twitter I became a script consultant for The Archers on BBC Radio 4. And featured in a UK-wide booklet promoting volunteering as a local councillor to those who don't fit the volunteer stereotype. And never have to scrape around for material for the website I host for the Campaign to Protect Rural England. Facebook can't do all that!

    The 'real life'/online nature of friendships is fascinating. My other half and I meet up 3 or 4 times a year with a bunch of mates I met on the blog linked to Radio 4's evening news programme, PM. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm. They are real, intelligent, varied, fascinating people ... and their grown up kids are the only ones who think any of this is weird!

    Thanks for sharing, Mark. Loved this article and will RT it widely on Twitter. (Thanks to whoever it was originally RT'd it to me.)

    Fiona Cowan
    @Fiona_WordsBird

    Facebook is great for
  • fionacowan
    I really enjoyed this, Mark. I was a real Twit-sceptic at first but now rely on it heavily for work, and use Facebook just for keeping up with friends or music ventures. Through Twitter I became a script consultant for the BBC's longest running radio drama!

    Some of the best friends I have were met through the blog linked to BBC Radio 4's evening news magazine programme 'PM'. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm ... we meet up 3 or 4 times a year, and only our grownup children seem to think it's weird.

    There's a social study to be done on social networking. Wish I had the skills to do it!

    Fiona Cowan
    @Fiona_WordsBird
  • Twitter alone has transformed my life by simply putting me in touch. The assymetrical nature of Twitter will always put it above the other networks because to me, social networking isn't just about doing so within my network of already-existing friends - it's about meeting new and valuable people.

    The most important thing to me when I use a social network is feedback. I don't really need the frills such as having a nice photo album or video album - I can put those on pages that I link to from my Twitter account.

    In this case, what Roy Rodenstein says is true - we've been communicating like this for years. However, Twitter has simplified the process (now we don't need to connect to servers and configure bots).

    Here's a statement from @WarrenWhitlock that describes what I'm saying: http://twitter.com/WarrenWhitlock/status/107866...

    I'm not sure what a perfect social networking platform looks like and I don't think anyone else does either, but Twitter is the closest one to that perfection as far as I'm concerned.
  • sherrykumar
    I think that Twitter has its benefits, but neither the media nor the marketers can agree on how to effectively utilize it. In my quest for learning how to effectively use it as a marketing tool, I made many mistakes mostly because I used it for social connections while at the same time building a business presence.
    I finally learned to separate the two and so an immediate benefit. I think when it comes to Twitter, the biggest challenge is to stay focused on your audience and what they want to hear: http://ebiznow.wordpress.com/?p=45&preview=true
  • I have to admit that at first I was a Twitter skeptic as well. I didn't "get it". However, once I understood I could follow incredibly interesting people who I would not otherwise have the opportunity to meet Twitter instantly became much more valuable and worthwhile than any other social network. It all comes down to who you follow. Of course there are people posting what they ate for lunch but I don't follow them. I use Twitter as a learning resource and follow people who are doing amazing things, running and funding cool startups, and generally awesome. I have essentially stopped using Facebook because little to no learning takes place there for me. What my friends post on Facebook is exactly the useless information that people assume is all over Twitter. I think they have it backwards.
  • Hi Mark - First time poster here, but I've been hooked to your blog posts for quite awhile. Thank you for sharing your insights with us -- truly helpful.

    Short note regarding Facebook: While many complain and have concerns for Facebook's walled garden approach, I would argue that it's a positive for the internet with the caveat being maintaining a personal/social network. Facebook's ability to act as 'Big Brother' is a reason for greater adoption of users who otherwise would not use any social network. It's a relatively safe ecosystem for the most basic use cases of a social network -- sign in, connect with friends, see their photos, and write on their walls.

    Back to the point about Twitter: Thanks for writing a post that I should have a while back, but do not write as well nor have as big of an audience to share my thoughts with! :) Twitter has allowed me to connect with more accomplished professionals than I ever thought possible at a young age. Being an asymmetric network, it empowers every user to be a voice and true owner of the product. It gives a nobody who may have passion, ambition, creativity, and talent the chance to be recognized. It's not for everyone. It's not for those that doesn't understand how powerful this open network can be nor for those that are unwilling to contribute to their account. But for those that get it, it's truly a blessing.

    Final thought: Twitter is empower individuals. Facebook gives organizations the best/genuine reach.
  • thanks for leaving a comment, Steven. re: facebook's walled garden - I'll save my comment for a future post. been meaning to write it for a while!
  • Spot on. It's a fantastic tool and people not using it don't get it.

    You're not alone in this. The more open VCs - those that blog - seem to be embracing this opportunity to hear new stories. I saw Fred Wilson tweet that he was going to be in Silicon Valley a few weeks back. So I pinged him and suggested he drop by the hacker dojo and meet with us - we had a back and forth of emails as we differed on a view of the app space - and he graciously swung by for a chat, and to hear about AppWhirl - even though we were just in our minimum viable product ugly UGLY alpha version. We didn't want to pitch him. Just to expose him to our worldview and hear his thoughts. We made that clear and honored it. It was a great experience and woke me up to the power of Twitter for such things.

    I saw your sushi tweet about an hour too late or I'd have tweeted you and headed up the 101! Glad to hear you had a good bite and great company :-)
  • Michael_Schaecher
    If you want to be successful in life it is important to surround yourself with successful people. I currently live in Nebraska, where it is impossible to surround yourself with people who have been successful in the startup industry. Twitter gave me a way to somewhat 'surround myself' with successful people in the industry I want to succeed in, even if I don't actually know them in "real life". I am moving to the Bay Area soon, so hopefully I can take this to the offline realm.

    I also landed some contract work with a Omaha startup called RockDex that I never would have known existed without Twitter. Let alone getting in touch with the CEO was a simple as an @ mention.
  • Great points. People in Silicon Valley are too quick to assume that all other startups are in the Valley. Technology like Twitter closes the gap. Good luck with the move.
  • Even though the number of VC-related blogs in the UK is less than in the US, they not only helped me understand who are some important people I need to talk to regarding my MBA project (about the VC industry), but and also connected me with the excellent VC blogs and twitter feeds in the US (Feld, Fred Wilson, yourself). The US blogs provided so much input and links to useful content about VC, that in only a couple of weeks I'm way ahead of where I planned to be. I now have 5 meetings with VCs in London set up and, thanks to LinkedIn and similar tools, understand the social networks in this tight community so I can always refer the people I've already met with.
  • I think every new medium gets the "what I had for lunch" slam. Blogs and the web, certainly. I suppose Gutenberg might have gotten a pass since he was printing Bibles and whatnot. But there is some truth to it. There's a huge amount of junk on Twitter, same as on the web and on TV. To some extent, that's just the way life is, but I also think people will continue to need more help understanding Twitter and personalizing and filtering the content. That's why there's a technology adoption curve, right? The majority of people aren't motivated to deal with the pain it can take to get value out of Twitter, at least so far.

    One thing I'm not sure about is whether Twitter really works for conversations. I basically can't follow anyone who has a lot of followers and tends to respond to them. Think Gary Vaynerchuk. I love his style, but it would just kill my stream. Even without those high volume tweeters, I still feel like I need to pay too much attention to Twitter to get the stuff I really want. For example, Mark, I saw your sushi post, but not until the next day. That's a reality for any medium, but I want Twitter to get a lot smarter about what I really want to see. Same issue on Facebook, actually. For the longest time, I never saw my wife's updates in my stream, based on whatever arcane algorithm FB uses. I've taken to bookmarking people's pages in FB to "train" it the way people used to train their Tivos.

    So I see the value in Twitter, but it still needs to mature a lot for people to reap the full value. For that matter, I think there's still a chance for someone to come in and eat their lunch if they can reconceptualize the asynchronous network in a way that's easier for people to digest.
  • Another great post and yes - Twitter useful for advertising through links and connecting with good peeps as you have pointed out but the average internet user (AIU) is not fond of casual encounters online and skittish to meet new people in this manner (unlike you and I). I strongly believe that although Twitter is worth $2 billion to $3 billion today, it's either close to or has already "Jumped the Shark".
  • This is one of the many reasons why I love Twitter and think it's still underrated.
  • davidkpark
    There are several ways in which to view Twitter. One, it like a uber-conference with mini-panels going on all the time and it allows the attendees to meet panelists (the asymmetry that you talk about), interact with them, and even build wonderful long lasting relationships. Facebook on the other is like a family reunion picnic.

    Another view is that it's like a turbocharged version of Granovetter's "The Strength of Weak Ties" hypothesis. If you have time, it's worth the read - http://bit.ly/71LFg0.
  • I completely agree with this post. In addition to broadening my social network -- I've met people at my firm through Twitter that I otherwise never would have -- as a consumer I find it invaluable. During the East Coast blizzards last month, all my local business were letting us know via Twitter when they were open, when they were restocking, etc, and it make that experience feel less of a lockdown and more "community bonding" moment. Additionally, when I had customer service problem with a company I'd never used before, I tweeted out to their twitter handle, and had a response within the hour, and a resolution within the day (I still have not gotten a response from my email and phone calls).
  • I love the story about local businesses updating via Twitter. I have a post in my head about this topic that I hope to write in the next 30 days. Thanks for the story.
  • Great post, Mark. I am a huge Twitter fan and user for the reasons you cite above (and many others). What amazes me is that if you are naturally curious (as I am), you never tire of meeting great people and Twitter is yet another channel to meet like-minded people who are willing to broadcast a bit about themselves and put themselves out there. I don't know yet what the right mechanism is to meet great people if you are an introvert, but perhaps we'll save that for when gene mapping is $100 a pop and we can all load our maps into the social graph and get location-based recommendations! :-)
  • Jeff, obviously Twitter is where we met also. And having now met in person I feel much more connected. re: introverts - I would argue that social networks are much more powerful for them than for us extroverts because they are able to make an impact in a way that they might not be able to in person.

    Look forward to hearing about your book launch and helping to promote. Speak to you after my annual meeting has passed.
  • I used twitter to hack my way into a circle of people I would have had no chance of getting to know otherwise. Through all of this social networking voodoo I'm now in a completely different place than I was 2 years ago, with my own business and a network of friends that I've met in person maybe twice.
  • Awesome. I find blogs even more intimate because there is more of a conversation. Between Twitter and blogs you can accomplish much if you take your time and don't rush to be fast friends.
  • shafqat
    This is a really good point. While Twitter allows people to get to know others and build relationships without meeting physically, we've actually always had this option through blogs.

    But what's really interesting to me is that it took Twitter to come along before I started building relationships through blog discussions. It's almost as if Twitter showed that it's possible, and people started become more accustomed to the idea of building relationships with "strangers." Not sure if this is just me, but when it comes to blogs, I've definately found a huge change in my own behavior post-Twitter.
  • Note to self: If I ever buy a Lexus, replace the tire iron immediately.

    Can you imagine if someone could aggregate all the crazy serendipitous stories Twitter has created? Its nuts! It's changed things forever, absolutely.

    I usually refer to it as "intentional vs. situational". You and I are selective with our Twitter followings, so everyone in our stream is someone we've chosen (intentional) to follow due to similar interests, etc. No other social graph (at least for me) has that. Facebook is full of people I *knew*. We grew up together or went to school together (situational), but have gone our separate ways and for the most part have little in common today. Or, there's people I happily still have a drink with today, but our day to day lives are very different.

    It's also the only network where someone can start from scratch, discover people of interest, learn and create relationships. If I followed you and Dave McClure on Facebook 10 months ago (if there was even a mechanism to find interesting people), you'd rightly deny me and that would be that. With Twitter, I've found hundreds of people I can learn from, whether they like it or not :) I literally learn every time I read my stream, and no other network in my online experience has offered that.

    It's really an continuous cocktail party of all the people you'd actually WANT to invite to a cocktail party - and half of them don't even know they're there. The "fad" people just haven't tapped into it yet. Cheers Mark!
  • No, don't restrict yourself as long as your comments are value add. I think your intentional vs. situational is a useful framework.
  • Shit, I need to watch my comment length. When someone gives me more than 140 characters, I go nuts.
  • Mark, thanks for a great post. I am relatively new to Twitter and have been wrestling with the false sense of familiarity that it can sometimes create. That is a huge benefit, as already discussed. But I think also requires humility in realizing that we are in this unique position to be "flies on the wall" to conversations with people we admire but don't know. I appreciated those stories - they encourage me to be more bold in reaching out to those I haven't met.
  • Yes, it's a good reminder. When I first started actively using Twitter I felt confused about the protocol and what some of the shorthands were, like "OH" for overheard. Twitter should do a better job of onboarding, frankly. I spoke with them recently about this at their offices and I know it's an area they want to focus on.

    At the risk of being overly promotional - if you are new to Twitter you might want to check out some of these article: http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/twitter-101/
  • fundamental difference is the language: we 'follow' on twitter, and 'friend' on facebook. i agree, the twitter mindset is actually more about social networking, connecting with others who share your interests.

    to me, facebook is (at the moment) more of an interactive, digital phonebook. twitter is an information source and networking nirvana. we're each curating our twitter lists to shape our individual streams of information and interact with people we respect and admire, people we might otherwise never 'meet.' to that end, i think the retweet and @ reply are the new autograph. social validation. ;-j
  • Yes, great add. I talked above in the comments about what is unique in Twitter and I faild to mention "retweet." This is not only an important element to "normal" Tweeting but also to news sharing. Using Tweetmeme not only drives traffic and alerts people to interesting articles you've read - but it also helps surface "back catalog" articles that were written months ago but still have value. I notice spikes in traffic to old articles whenever anybody new reads and retweets them. awesome.

    re: Facebook - for me it's a way to share photos and stories with my extended family and long-time friends. This is a problem for Facebook. If they did a better job of letting me segregate long-time friends & family from "virtual" friends then I would actually follow more people on Facebook.
  • i think there's a need for groups on both facebook and twitter. i would love to be able to easily twitter with a specific group of people -- my co-workers, the friends i'm meeting for dinner, my family. these groups would be permanent and spontaneous/short-term. on facebook, i think the groupings would be more persistent depending on how much i want to share with certain people. i don' t think the limited profiles are enough of a distinction. i do think that whoever tackles groups well will have a big advantage, because then both facebook and twitter are seriously taking on communication in addition to sharing of information.
  • re: groups, I'm with ya 100%. Just like we have on email and IM.
  • It is not just asymmetry or randomness; it is the whole Twitter package. Clearly a lot of people see some benefit to the quasi random elements of chance that Twitter brings to them. And, Twitter has been around long enough so we can begin to argue that it has withstood the test of time. Having said that, it is not totally clear to me that the benefit of the randomness is, by itself, enough to account for Twitter's success. There is also a lot of good BI out there. For example, one twitter stream provided the knowledge that a tech company I am interested in is relocating to Boston -- so, an opportunity to reach out to them. Also, if you follow MHT (which I do) you don't have to read every article, but it is nice to see the headlines flash by and read the ones I care about. It is not just the benefit of asymmetry; it is the whole package that makes a compelling case that Twitter is an important addition to social networking and is here to stay.
  • Yes, thank you. I hope I didn't imply that merely chance encounters and asymmetry accounted for the whole uniqueness and success of Twitter. I think serendipitously the 140 characters also mattered. And that drive short links and link sharing. Being only a platform it encouraged an ecosystem thus mobile clients took off. And much more. I use Twitter as a curated RSS reader. I don't like scanning headlines because there are too many. In Twitter people that I like, trust and respect share the links on articles I should be reading. That has worked amazingly well for me.
  • Right there with you.

    Twitter is how I found my current job.

    Twitter connectivity also reduces small talk at conferences by enabling me to jump right into a real conversation with Twitter friends by creating a shared awareness through ambient intimacy.
  • "shared awareness through ambient intimacy" ... nice!
  • "I believe you need to be careful with your public whereabouts more than many other people seem to feel." That's interesting. Why?
  • Examples:
    - if you Tweet you're going on vacation it's an invitation to thieves
    - if you have a young family and constantly Tweet you're traveling for business you're telling people your family is home along
    - if you Tweet your public location and you're female, it's an open invitation to potential creeps
    - if you add GeoLocation to your Tweets you may inadvertently give away your home address (as happened to me when I first started using UberTwitter)
    - Sometimes you think you have privacy and you don't. People using ChatRoulette thought they had privacy. This website is REALLY scary for privacy. Imagine this starts getting published with Twitter data? http://www.chatroulettemap.com/

    The world is filled with great people who are fun to interact with online - even when you've never met. But we all know the Internet is also host to the less benevolent forces in the world. I have darker stories that I'd rather not put in writing.
  • I am right there with you on this. Two pieces of information I do not want to be public knowledge: 1) When I'm not home and 2) When I'm home alone.
  • Mark, So you were saying: " I can’t follow everybody back because I feel that this would clutter my Twitter stream and make it harder to hear from people I really know or from whom I want to learn. "

    Do you find this strategy better and more efficient than using the "List" feature?

    Great post, thanks.
  • I don't know, Arel. I really haven't gotten into lists. Maybe I need to dedicate some time to experimenting how to best use them. How are you using lists in a positive way?
  • I find it very useful with tweetdeck (and Seesmic Mobile) where for example one of my lists named "Startup" where I have you and few others on that list in one column so I never miss any of you guys tweets and it saves me a lot of time as I don't need to browse and filter all the other people I follows tweets to see the ones I am interested on a regular basis.
    Very efficient and time saving tool for sure.
  • Great. Thanks for the tip. I mostly use Twitter.com and Ubertwitter so maybe that's why I'm not maximizing my use of lists. I'll check it out.
  • Twitter.com is probably the hardest way to use Twitter.
  • Wouldn't of found you, read your blog or met you for breakfast in L.A. were it not for Twitter. I couldn't agree more with this post!
  • So true, right? You and I got to know each other through Twitter and then had the pleasure of meeting in person. And I feel always a bit tapped into your life by catching blogs about where you're traveling. Also, I still think of you when I pass Oceana - a place I would never have known about in my own backyard! Hope you're well and hope to see you again, soon.
  • Completely agree. I've connected with some fantastic people through Twitter, virtual friendships and real ones. The most interesting (that I can remember in this pre-coffee state): I was working in Cambridge, but had to travel to Oxford for a few reasons. TEDGlobal was on, and as a NRTE (Non-Rich TED Enthusiast), I decided to try to sneak my way in to some sessions while there. Folks who know places like Oxford know you can often just walk in with confidence, of gently push open doors to get in to these things.
    I tried a few colleges, and it didn't work, so I found myself back in Cambridge working late in the library. Sent a tweet out "Tried to sneak into TEDGlogal. Unsuccessful." (or something). Within a few minutes was a couple DMs from TEDsters ,including an invite to dinner with a dozen TED engineers and designers. I very nearly jumped back on the bus to join.
    I've had more connections than missed via Twitter, and am constantly surprised how surrounding myself with interesting people yields interesting connections.

    Nice post,
    Brendan

    (@brendanbaker)
  • Wow, what an awesome story. Thanks for sharing.
  • I got on Twitter few (5?) weeks ago, after getting over that "someone's lunch" argument, and feel the same way about how the world is open and connected. I also saw the night that you called sushi & head out with Jamie, Justyn and Saumil and thought how great Twitter is for connecting with others (and kicked myself for not being in SF then).

    Btw, I'm sure you already know this, you can use "list" to manage the streams that you actually watch. That way you can politely follow back everyone, without actually following everyone.

    (This brings up an aspect (off topic) about Twitter analytics - not all follows are real follows. It's the interaction that's the true measure. But then some people use a lot of DMs for interaction - which I don't think can be pulled through API - so can't be measure for analytics.)
  • You can get some basic analytics that will tell you what percentage of your followers are "active" here --> http://analytics.ad.ly/
  • Obviously, as a fan, I checked out ad.ly a while back since it's your portfolio company. I also checked out about 20 others - Klout, graph edge, gravity, twitalyzer,...

    I think ad.ly analytic is not very clear in term of who it targets, it is sort of targeting publishers and brands in combined. A few degree tweak will make this clearer.

    IMHO, if it is to be successful with publishers, it needs a twitter app that is an integrated UI (like Hootsuite). It is not natural for publishers to log in to ad.ly, then log out, log in to twitter to carry on with their normal conversation, then log back into ad.ly later.

    One night this week I will email you something that I use in a different industry to evaluate trends in technology. I think you may find it interesting and can be useful for social network analytics. I hope my email doesn't get blocked because of the attachment. (Yes, I have your email addresses.)
  • Oh man, I just notice that all I seem to be doing with my comments on your blog is agreeing with you. I'm a fan, but not that biased, seriously. I'll be more critical next time. Watch out :).
  • Don't worry - I don't hold it against people who agree with me ;-)
  • Geeks have been meeting each other virtually and then f2f for decades, from Usenet, IRC, BBSs and all kinds of other forums.

    But I totally agree that Twitter is bringing this possibility more to the mainstream.
    In some ways it's "Open Sourcing" yourself... exposing a limited API for others to contact you.
    Sorry for the overly techie analogy but I think it is apt in some ways.

    My own humorous example: Brightkite (the grandpappy of Twitter geolocation) once randomly showed me that a person had checked in nearby, I contacted them to come in for a feedback session on our product, and it got written up in the Mint.com blog!

    Mark any plans to come to Boston? Dave McClure just did it ;)
  • Yes, you're totally right. Obviously many of us remember the pre-Internet, pre-AOL and certainly pre-Facebook days. On the "consumer" side there was Prodigy and CompuServe. On IM I was "pinging" people back when I was programming on mainframe computers long before ICQ, AIM, MSN then Skype.

    So, yes, these tools have been around a long time. But they are now going mainstream, becoming platforms and going mobile. That's what is new. Plus the "publish and subscribe" model of delivery and following.

    re: Boston - was just there in December. I'm sure I'll be back. Read your bio - super interesting background.
  • i totally agree. its been happening under the covers for years.

    But then i look back at a company called 'friends reunited" that successfully put me in touch with a bunch of my old boarding school chums back in 1999. then a little thing called facebook came along with a tweaked version and the world went mental.

    I'd like to meet up roy - how is evan? i met evan through mark Theerman some years ago now.
  • Ah cool. I like Theerman a lot. I'll ping you on twitter.
  • I think the critical difference is asymmetry, you really hit it on the head. It's so simple, but so powerful because it allows us to more accurately emulate real human relationships. Symmetrical friend adding is limiting because it requires consent, also it's a much stronger and permanent "affirmation" than just "Following" someone which allows the strength of the relationship to ebb and flow with time based on the amount of attention you pay to their stream. That subtle difference mixed with the biz dev and marketing inherent to Twitter's super simple and powerful API is really what has set them apart from Facebook. But... Facebook is now more popular than Google per Hitwise, so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out :)
  • Yes, I agree that asymmetry is a large part of Twitter's success as is their platform approach and desire to keep things open. For me Facebook, while an impressive site, is a return back to AOL. It's a walled garden. Remember the days when people used to take out advertisements that said on the page, "AOL Keyword" as though it were distinct from the Internet? These days it's Facebook Fanpages. People are building inside the fortress. That's bad for the Internet.

    Anyway, that was a tangent! My main message about this post is about serendipity - the chance to form new relationships - both virtual and in person - are both enabled by Twitter's open model.
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