Want to Start a Technology Company in LA?

by Mark Suster on March 17, 2010

Downtown Los Angeles and Palm TreesLos Angeles.  People either love it or hate it.  All the stereotypes and caricatures are overblown.  And we’re left with a city with idyllic weather, major commerce, the media center of the world, and a great emerging technology scene.  We have an abundance of ethnicities, culinary options, music and culture.  Randy Newman said it best, “I love LA” (Worth a 2 minute watch for pure nostalgia. Go on, have a bit of fun down memory lane!).  I was raised in NorCal (born in Philly – go Eagles!) so I feel I have an unbiased appreciation for BOTH Californias.

I was recently interviewed for an article that appeared in Fast Company titled, “Why you should start a business in LA.”  If you’re interested in the topic it’s worth a read, but I thought I’d elaborate on the topic since it comes up all the time.

First, I’d like to quote (paraphrase) Brad Feld speaking at Twiistup in LA in 2009, “I keep hearing people in LA talking with a chip on their shoulders about building a tech business here relative to Silicon Valley.  I have one message for you, ‘get over it!’ ”  His message was that in 2010 great business can be built anywhere if there is a great team and the will to make it work.

This is especially true in LA, the second largest city in the country with a population if 16 million.  We have universities like Caltech, UCLA, USC and many more.  We have many seasoned entrepreneurs who have built successful companies here and made a lot of money for investors and themselves.  But LA is not Silicon Valley and we don’t need to aspire to be so.  We will never be Silicon Valley in the way that Toronto will never be Hollywood.  But we have a great city for building technology companies.

If you decide to build a company in LA, here’s what you need to know:

1. Funding is different – In Silicon Valley you have mega venture capital funds and many of them.  They not only have gotten bigger but they have an amazing track record of funding the biggest names in the sector: Cisco, Apple, Google, Facebook.  As a result many funds are OK with big bets.  It’s not uncommon for incredibly smart and talented Phd’s or CS majors from Stanford to raise $10 million on an early-stage “platform” that if it succeeds it will be huge.

LA generally doesn’t have an appetite for this kind of investment at early stages.  LA investors are more pragmatic.  We tend to do more $3 million “A” rounds and we look for companies that have an early monetization strategy.  I like to repeat the mantra, “necessity is the mother of all invention,” meaning that because investors have this expectation you find entrepreneurs that focus on nearer term monetization.  Never say never – GRP Partners is actually looking very closely at a company in its A round that is raising a large sum of money.  I’m sure others have, too.  But it’s more atypical for investors located in this market.

The result is that we’ve had a lot of innovation coming from LA in terms of monetization.  The whole category of “sponsored search” came from a successful LA company, Overture.  (my firm, GRP Partners, was an investor).  LA produced Applied Semantics that created AdSense and was bought by Google.  We were also an investor in the early local listing company, CitySearch – an LA company.  LA was a leader in lead generation (LowerMyBills), comparison shopping (PriceGrabber, Shopzilla), social networking (MySpace … I know, I know – Facebook won – but it was still a big business).  If we extend a bit North up the coast line we have many affiliate marketing innovators including ValueClick, Commission Junction and FastClick.  They also produced GoToMeeting and CallWave.  My messages a) it can be done b) these have produced tremendous financial results and c) these were all innovators in monetization.

Side note: LA seems to have had some success in mega deals led by private equity firms as evidenced by DemandMedia and Chris DeWolf’s latest company backed by more than $20 million in private equity.

2. Recruiting will be different – You can build a great management team in LA.  You can find very talented technology executives.  But let’s be honest with ourselves – it’s not Silicon Valley.  You don’t have a pool of thousands of Google engineers to hire when they’re ready to leave the mother ship.  You don’t have the founders of eBay, LinkedIn, Salesforce.com and Yahoo.  You don’t.  Get over it. But we do have great technology developers.  You can build a team of 100+ people in LA without needing to hire outside of LA.  If you want to scale to become a “huge” company you will find it difficult to scale to the level of the Valley sized companies.  But if you grow to be that big it would be a very nice problem to deal with.  DemandMedia has already scaled a tech team to a considerable size in Santa Monica.

But what you do have is more loyalty.  You’re not in the grind of your staff being constantly approached by every other start-up within 10 miles.  So it’s always a trade-off.  You can hire a talented head of marketing, business development, technology and sales.  If you want to hire very experienced product managers there are less of these than I would like.  You will also struggle to hire an enterprise salesforce – but then again who does this these days anyways?  I believe you can attract people to relocate to Los Angeles but it’s likely that they’ll come from locations other than Northern California.

3. Commuting - The freeways here are legendary for traffic.  But the reality is that most people who work here in tech live close enough to their work to take surface streets.  My commute, for example, from Santa Monica to Century City is less than 15 minutes each way and I never have to take the freeway.  But the reality is that for some they live far from their offices and like any big city (maybe more so) the commute can be a bear.  My biggest message is that for most this fear is overrated.  For some, it’s a nightmare.  Your main commuting challenge with be taking the Southwest bus up to SFO/SJC/OAK.  Expect it.  Entrepreneurs in LA spend a lot of time commuting up to the Valley.  You need to for conferences, business development and often for sales.  It’s a one hour flight all – this is not an issue.  Just think of all the FourSquare checkins you can log at LAX ;-)

4. Los Angeles has a strategic asset : content creation skills – In order for the Internet to go mainstream you first needed the infrastructure to support it from networking equipment (Cisco, Juniper) to databases (Oracle) to search (Google) and more recently mobile devices (Apple).  But ultimately we’re on the Internet to communicate, buy stuff, become informed and be entertained.  All of these areas still have a lot of growth and innovation left.  Communications is being changed by people like Twitter, commerce by people like GroupOn, informed by people like DemandMedia and entertainment by people like Hulu.  In these last two categories LA has as much of an advantage as any other market.  In content creation we definitely have assets other markets don’t have.  While nobody has yet “cracked the code” on production quality video over the Internet (YouTube won UGC video), there is a lot of innovation happening in LA from places like Eqal, Deca.TV, DemandMedia’s studios, Clicker, Filmaka and other initiatives.  So if you’re out to create content businesses there is no better time and no better place than here.

5. The community has matured – The LA / Southern California market has many people who are now on their second and third companies.  A great team from MySpace has created Gravity.  Gil Elbaz from Applied Semantics has now created Factual.  Zorik Gordon is tearing it up at ReachLocal.  TechCoast Angels backed GreenDot should be a major IPO this year.  Frank Addante has created Rubicon Project.  Douglas Merrill, the former CIO of Google, is building his next company in LA. Scott Painter, founder of CarsDirect has created two new generation LA startups (Zag and TrueCar, both backed by GRP Partners).  Brett Brewer (ex MySpace) has AdKnowledge, there is Adconian, Legal Zoom and many more.  Hautelook, Gogii, Magento – all very high potential companies building in LA.  My point is – great companies are being built here like they are in in New York, Boston and elsewhere.

Summary – there is a lot of talent here.  We’re not all about the beach and sun – although we enjoy that, too.  We have started to build initiatives like Launchpad LA to help bring this community together and make it easier for first time entrepreneurs.  I will talk more about LaunchPad in my next post.  Basically, it doesn’t suck living and working in LA.  Come join us.  And for those that are here – let’s stop comparing ourselves to Silicon Valley.  In Brad’s words, “Get over it.”  We have much to be proud of in our own right.  And still much work to be done.

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  • jeffsolomon
    As a follow-up to this, LA just agreed to lower the tax rate for internet companies, read about it here (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-interne...) - too little too late in my view, we're moving to El Segundo this year.
  • great news - I bet John Suh of LegalZoom had a large hand in that, he's been lobbying for that for years
  • Hi Mark, thanks for the excellent post. I'm moving back to LA in a couple of months after three years on the east coast, and your description of today's tech scene (and all great local companies mentioned) make me even more excited to move back.

    I was interested in your comment that there are fewer experienced product managers than you would like. Why do you think this is the case? Are there not enough local companies offering the right kind of experience to create strong product managers?

    It's a job I'd like to have someday, so I'd appreciate any perspective on what makes an exceptional product manager.
  • joeagliozzo
    Really enjoyed this post Mark - I graduated from UCLA (and USC) and am a life long "LA/OC'er" - when we raised VC in 1999 one condition was that we move to SV - a year later I was happy to be back here.

    Glad there are more alternatives for LA entrepreneurs 10 years later..

    Good luck with your LaunchPad initiative - sounds like exactly the kind of thing needed to continue to grow the community.
  • I just returned from SXSW interactive and definitely felt that LA was represented really well there. I may be biased because I am from LA but I felt that I met more people from LA than anywhere else. The LA startup scene is definitely very interactive and friendly. Just about all of the other founders, angels and V.C's I have met in LA have been really engaging and helpful.

    Although I have never lived in the Valley, I get the feeling that it is almost like what "Hollywood" is to Los Angeles. It is the biggest industry there and because of that it is hard to be recognized as a part of the community. Tell me if I am wrong but I feel that having a startup in SF is almost like trying to be an actor in LA.

    The tech industry can't compare with the entertainment industry in LA so when you meet someone who is not in entertainment and actually involved in tech, we get really excited. Because of that, I think the average person with a startup can build a good support group easier in LA than in SF.
  • I just got back from SXSW Interactive and definitely felt a really strong presence from LA. I might be a little biased because I live here, but I feel that the scene is really energetic for a young startup. I have never lived in the Valley but from what I read and hear it is almost like the "Hollywood" is to Los Angeles. I get the vibe that SF has a lot higher barriers of entry when it comes to getting engaged and involved in the community.

    In LA, just about everyone I have met whether it be other founders, angels or V.C's has been really supportive a helpful. i think a lot of this has to do with the fact that tech is not the biggest industry in LA, like it is in SF. Just about everyone you meet out here is involved in entertainment one way or another, when you find people involved in tech, people get excited.

    Plus as Mark said, you can hop on a plane and get to SF in an hour. This makes it easy to spend time up there and you are still very close to investors that are in the Valley.
  • jwaller
    I'm probably opening myself up for a sh*t storm here, but I do think there are a couple downsides to the scene in L.A. vs. the Valley. Don't get me wrong, I love L.A. & am proud to be an entrepreneur here. However, I think that from a BD perspective up north is just much more active. Every time I go up there, I feel like there is an order of magnitude more activity, meetings, etc. to be had. Because I'm making a trip to go up there, I'm obviously compressing as much activity as I can while I'm there, but even taking this into account, I still can't shake the feeling. Secondly, & this is where the sh*t storm comes in... I can't shake the feeling that the work ethic is simply not as strong in L.A. as it is in the Valley. Up there, people pull all-nighters & work 80 hour weeks as a badge of honor. Much like investment bankers in NYC. I just don't see it here. Maybe there is just too much fun to be had out of the office ; - ).
  • evreeland
    When do you have to be back in L.A. I graduate in June will be home after the 4th of July.
  • evreeland
    Oops just saw the new class is selected April 15th. Does that mean that's when the program starts :(
  • Been here six months now, from Atlanta. Damn, it's a nice place to live. Being able to drive 20 mins to the beach to watch the sunrise at Zuma beach is a hell of a benefit...
  • Doesn't suck, hey?
  • Great article Mark! We love it here, and as you mentioned, need to be here (content play).. As a startup working with the studios (movieclips.com) it is essential that we are a quick drive away. Plus, you can't beat the Rose Cafe, Urth, or Le Grande Orange.. and if you're feeling like you want to destroy your stomach -- head on over to Holy Guacomole.. all on Santa Monica's main st.
  • Plus you can't beat Via Veneto on Main Street.
  • Very useful post. I look forward to hearing more about LaunchPad LA.
  • Watch this space. About to publish details.
  • Awesome post. I'm a Stanford grad who started a tech company and had long discussions with my team of where to go (NorCal or LA). We were originally from LA and chose to come back here, and I'm happy to hear you discuss a lot of the things we thought very closely about. (Our office is in Century City now too, coincidentally. I've been following your recent posts and have really enjoyed them; if you ever have a spare half hour for coffee around Century City, let me know!
  • Thanks, Max. Glad you came back to LA. I'm sure we'll connect at some point.
  • And don't forget that dudes like me love to invest in LA companies. In the past three years we've invested in three - Oblong (www.oblong.com), TopSpin (www.topspinmedia.com), and Memeo (www.memeo.com). We're also investors in LRN which has a big office in LA. Great entrepreneurs, great food, legendary traffic (oops), and the best pizza in the world at Pizzeria Mozza.
  • Todd Havens
    I live a couple of blocks from Pizzeria Mozza and I can verify Brad's claim that it's the best. Amazing food there, in general, and wish I made it there more often!
  • Would love to hear your take on building a tech startup outside the US too!
  • Much different topic, but will address that another day.
  • Cool... that's the second post you need to write, after this one: http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/03/08/s... ;-)
  • Mark, I would like to add another plus, LA (and OC and SD) has one of the biggest angels organization in the county. TCA is always actively looking for ''game changing' earlier stage startups than VC like you guys. In addition, our new program SeedTrack www.seedtrack.org is designed to nurture and invest even earlier startup.

    Last year TCA invested in 24 deals and we are not slowing down this year, we love game changing venture.

    We are also very 'human'. What do I mean? For example, at our regular Entrepreneurs Mixer our members like to 'Reach out and Meet' entrepreneurs over drinks and an very informal environment. We want to be more than a investor, we want to be your partners, your friends, and we listen.

    But I think you should not limit to just LA, I think OC and SD have all the elements you mentioned, and may be more. So should I suggest 'Southern California'?

    Best
    Ray Chan
  • Thanks, Ray. Yes, I occasionally use SoCal instead of LA. But the reality is that SD and OC are mostly different markets with different skills, different company types and at times different investors. They also have their own mentorship programs so in general I try to be respectful of that by sticking to LA but welcoming their VCs, entrepreneurs and companies to spend time with us at LA events.
  • CamiloALopez
    Mark, thanks for the great post. It is exciting since I just moved to L.A. So where are good way for networking and meeting people? I have attended some good meetups in Santa Monica, but there is lack of continuity.

    One of your previous post advices to start relationships with investors long before raising money. How do you suggest doing that in L.A.?
  • I think you'll find VCs and fellow entrepreneurs at Jason Nazar's events and DealMaker Media stuff.
  • Eric
    "[N]obody has yet “cracked the code” on production quality video over the Internet."

    I recommend this: http://oldjewstellingjokes.com -- the guys who produce this shoot 100 videos a day. They release a new video every Mon-Thurs and they're making money.
  • Yes, seen it before. I just want to clarify - there are many great small to mid-sized video based companies (including Break Media). It's just that nobody has create the HUGE idea that will transform the way we consume video in a web world. It's something I've been spending some cycles thinking about.
  • Recruiting is definitely a road block here in San Diego. Finding great engineers that aren't doing their own gig (typically consulting) is tough.
  • Unfortunately I see the same thing at the management levels.
  • Wil Schroter
    I think one of the aspects of LA that goes largely un-promoted is the fact that the community here is incredibly welcoming.

    You've got a great group of people here the generally WANTS to get together and welcome outsiders. As an outsider myself that just recently re-located, I have to say that the single greatest reason I came to Santa Monica was because the community of entrepreneurs here is just superb.

    Great energy, no clique mentality, and super smart.

    Oh, and one other thing. Everyone in LA is smiling. People here are living fun, happy lives (not everyone, the world's not perfect). You just don't see the level of personal enjoyment and social interaction in a lot of other cities. There's more to that than people realize.
  • Tony Karrer
    While I agree with this - I think that sometimes people confuse welcoming and smiling with not serious. It's good that folks are talking about the fact that early revenue/profits is often a key ingredient to balance the perception.
  • Yes, that is why I focus on this message. Too many people have the perception of sun, smiles, beach and booze. There are serious people in LA who are looking to build revenue focused businesses. That said, Wil is right that people in the community want to see our startups succeed so I find most people quite welcoming.
  • Great post.

    And as someone who has built companies in SF, LA (and next...NYC), I agree with you.

    In the computer gaming world, Bill Gross, starting with Knowledge Adventure (before Idea Labs), Brian Fargo with Interplay and a host of others set entrepreneurial motion in LA in the late 80s and 90s.

    Regardless of the transportation issues and talent pool in some areas, I would start a company there before the Bay Area any day.

    There is a clarity of purpose, a connection to media and an entertainment world creativity in business modeling that is refreshing and infectious...and growing.
  • Awesome! Come back to LA and start your next company!
  • I think some of the commenters are missing a key ingredient to the whole equation. Being HQ'd in LA doesn't mean you can't have a Silicon Valley office. One of my first start ups was co-located in LA and Palo Alto with minimal impact to the organization. There are ways to leverage the advantages of both locations.

    BTW: We'd love to see your thoughts on the VC community in the San Diego area.
  • VC in SD is virtually non-existent these days. Mission Ventures is great. If I'm not mistaken I think Enterprise isn't investing any longer. We look at SD but I think the local scene has dried up a bit.
  • Tony Karrer
    Mark - as we talked about at the LA CTO Forum - I think part of the issue in LA is the challenge of good networking. Where do you meet co-Founders? It's getting better recently, but I still find it to be pretty challenging. Launchpad LA is great for what it is, but it seems rather closed - unless I'm missing something.
  • It will be opening up a bit and addressing some of the concerns we discussed. About to hit 'update' on my Launchpad post - hope to address some of your issues there.
  • Narayanan Venkataraman
    As an international, I am trying to get a comparative perspective here.

    If I was looking at a non-VC backed business, would LA still be a better destination compared to the Valley/Boston/NY?
  • There isn't necessarily a "best" destination. Factors for deciding would include: access to talent, access to customers, access to biz dev partners, access to capital and your desire to live in the location! Without details one couldn't really say.
  • Craig
    Very interesting article... TCA and Pasadena Angels are two great groups, as a Caltech alumnus. We don't have that much of an entrepreneurial-based university system out here, as Caltech is primarily based on grad school and I don't know much about UCLA/USC.

    Sorry--because I can't see a more private way to mention this--but please no capitol 'T' in Caltech, we really appreciate it :-D

    One thing that you don't mention that I'd be interested to hear about: designers. It seems sometimes that every company up here in the Valley is looking for a UI/UX guru and can't seem to find one. I imagine LA might be more conducive to this than other places. Any thoughts?
  • Craig, as a recent grad from UCLA (and trying to work on a biotech startup) I can tell you that the entrepreneurial community is definitely lacking, but on the rise. Still there is a definite bias towards cleantech/biotech.

    UCLA recently opened up an incubator for cleantech/biotech/lab research startups and they also hosted an entrepreneurship boot camp. They offer a year long tech entrepreneurship course for engineering students, but it needs SERIOUS improvement.

    If anyone is willing, some of us local LA-ers should get together and set up university based programs to connect with all the talent there.
  • Craig,

    First, thank you for the correction on Caltech. Fixed.
    Second, I think great UI/UX people are hard to find anywhere. It's a rare skill. We have tremendously talented graphical designers in LA. So does NY. But that doesn't always translate into great UX. I think SV still leads the world in UX.

    Mark
  • Craig
    Mark,

    Thanks very much re: Caltech. Better than people calling us CIT :-D

    RE: LA UI/UX, interesting perspective on the skill split, much what I expected, but good to hear your view on things.

    BTW, if you haven't heard of it already, I highly recommend you check out mindshare.la --definitely enjoyed those events back when I was down there, and from what I've heard, they've become even more intense. Great crowd, too.
  • Great to hear some love for LA. I commute anywhere from 1 to 2 hrs one-way (if bad traffic). Proposed High-Speed Rail will cut that down to 30 min one-way.

    I find a lot of developers here are passionate about entrepreneurship, myself included. It just seems like there aren't as many start-up resources, or perhaps I'm too fresh to know about them. However LA does seem to be getting more quality attention for example: Founders Institute just started and I'm anxious to hear more about Launchpad LA.
  • Amen. Especially the content play bit. For Break, being in LA is a strategic advantage in being able to tap into a lot of content and producing talent on the video and editorial side that you simply wouldn't find in SF.

    When I left Philly (go Eagles!) I always thought I'd end up in the Bay Area, but having lived in LA for nearly 7 years now, it's hard not to love it. I moved here to join Symantec in Santa Monica, where Peter Norton started Norton Computing back in the day. Though Norton isn't talked about much in the startup world today, it's yet another example of a LA tech success story.
  • Yes, of course. Peter Norton.
  • Another thing about LA is certain kinds of talent come cheap! The result of LA dreamer syndrome. If you give people the flexibility to come and go on auditions you can hire Harvard and Stanford grads for $10 an hour. This works well for sites that need content creators like Mahalo.
  • "It was still a big business" - interesting that you used a past tense for MySpace :). Btw, MySpace Music is another worthwhile mention for LA.
  • It IS a big business. I'm just saying that "in the day" it was THE social networking site. That's all.
  • I want to see how you respond to this normative argument.

    I agree that "in 2010 great business can be built anywhere if there is a great team and the will to make it work."

    But in your post, "What Makes an Entrepreneur? Cojones", you wrote "But to me if you’re not willing to quit and take a risk on yourself, then you’re not confident enough in your own idea and skills. Why should I be?"

    So why don't I argue that unless you have a really good reason to stay where you are, you're not serious about your startup unless you move to the Valley.
  • bookluver321
    I think it takes a great team, a lot of will to make it work, as well as the know how. There is a great book titled, "The Ultimate Boomer Business Launch Workbook" written by Jeff Williams that does a great job in helping people learn how to run a business. The book offers step-by-step directions... which is something that I think a lot of people could use. A lot of people get stuck and don't know what to do next when certain business decisions need to be made. This takes the guessing out of the mix. With this type of help why couldn't everyone be successful (no matter where they are located).

    http://www.ultimateboomerbizguides.com/volume.html
  • Nivi's question is a good one, and if you are an entrepreneur raising money outside it's likely that you need to be prepared to answer this question. This is a sentiment that some Norcal investors will believe in.
  • Nik, you're certainly right that there is a VC bias in Silicon Valley to only building companies there. Some of that is a talent pool argument. Some of that is an argument that says, "if I'm going to invest and spend quality time trying to help you succeed I need to be close to you." Both have some legitimacy. But if you have a great idea and a great team it doesn't matter. Just ask GroupOn in Chicago.
  • I agree completely.
  • it becomes a talent pool issue and wether you have the funds and the network to make your internet dreams happen.

    there are many cities across the globe where you can have the talent local, cities with tech incubators will start building towards their own Tracy.

    and at this point I say:
    save the driving for the ferrari up and down the 101, why wouldn't you want to build it in NYC?

    always love her, born and raised 20+ years LA
  • Because I wouldn't want to rent a 2BR 4th floor walk-up for $4K/month?

    (Lived in Silly Valley for 10 years; now in San Diego and building a web startup.)

    -Erica
  • As someone who lived in San Diego for 5 years I can also say there are strengths / weaknesses to that location like anywhere. One really big plus is lifestyle. All of the climate benefits of LA, more laid back people and certainly you get more bang for the buck in housing. Downside, harder to recruit. Bottom line: choose where you want to live and build a business around that. Life's too short to not be happy.
  • yup Erica, i'll bet being funded would change that con$ideration! and even
    with enough cash to launch a biz in San Diego, it's a fine idea to build it
    from a house in Pacific Beach with a tight knit team, and scale it in one of
    the those scrapers where a POP is off the 805 @ La Jolla Village (just
    because). you got SD international for the board to fly into and a straight
    shot up the 5 to LA. if there's one thing i've learned on a mission, it's
    choosing a spot where you can build a team that doesn't have to commute...
    if you're into that sort of thing.
  • I honestly think there are pro's / con's to the Valley. Obviously in some businesses you just need to be there. Example: I invested in a company that is so dependent on relationships with other tech firms it seemed madness to stay in LA. Obviously I didn't pressure them to do so. But ReachLocal? I think they're doing $200 million top line. NO reason to be in the Valley. DemandMedia? Content > Tech - LA works well. How about Gogii? They built JamDat in LA and have access to both mobile and gaming skills down here (we have a strong games sector ... they are ex Activision).

    Answer: if you really want to try and build the next Google, maybe you need to move to NorCal. Not 100%, but a much stronger argument. Otherwise I'm less convinced. And the downside of the Valley (not taking anything away from SV - I love it there) is employee churn, echo chamber of ideas, more bravado about only swinging for the fences, etc. Microsoft / Amazon? Not in the Valley. It can happen!
  • Echo chamber, exactly! There's a dangerous kind of tech insularity to NY and SV that can cause web companies to lose touch with the mainstream. For better or worse, LA has a tradition of building products that appeal to a mass audience. That's not a bad local culture for web companies that want to achieve critical mass and build a sustainable business.
  • LA, I love the place. Lived there for 4 years and had offices in Santa Monica and Century City. CyberMedia a company which built windows diagnostics products was started in LA and bought by Network Associates (now McAfee) for $130 million USD.
  • Yeah, I think it's honestly underrated. People love to visit but don't realize how great it is for work / life.
  • jeffsolomon
    On top of all that, leasing class A commercial real estate is more affordable than ever down here. If your a startup looking for 5K sqft, you're gold and you've got your pick; nearly paying tenants to sign leases these days.
  • So where's the "silicon alley" of LA? Can one find any significant density of tech startups in LA proper, or are they scattered throughout the burbs, gravitating to Santa Monica?
  • Casey,
    As brycemaddock said it is definitely in Santa Monica. I heard that there are around 100 startups within a few mile radius. Also, just about all of the tech events and mixers take place down in the Santa Monica area.
  • +1 for Bryce's answer. In addition, Pasadena has a great community as the home of IdeaLab and there is a community in the South Bay off of Hawthorne / Rosecrans.
  • Santa Monica, then Pasadena/Monrovia, then the South Bay, a cluster at the 405/101, Agoura Hills, Westlake Village, as well as lots of clusters in Irvine/Costa Mesa/Aliso Viejo down in the OC. Here's all the tech companies within 5 miles of Demand Media, it's pretty dense actually: http://www.socaltech.com/intelligence/map/nbove...
  • Casey I think most of us are in Santa Monica and Venice with some folks in Downtown, Silver Lake and Los Feliz.
  • ericnakagawa
    Having co-founded a tech startup in LA, I must say that the network here has a very different vibe from SF/Hnl/Tokyo. There is a lot more hustle on early-monetization, and that's not such a bad thing.
  • Agree with that. I've been involved with the tech scenes in France, England, Japan, Silicon Valley and now LA. LA definitely has its own vibe.
  • Willis
    Interesting. How is LA for start-ups beyond pure software or internet plays, a la hardware as well?
  • Having recently incorporated a consulting company for small business technology, I can tell you LA is great for that. There are so many small businesses trying original things. From clothing lines to entertainment there are a lot of small businesses that need help online.
  • Irvine is actually really well known for hardware. LA, not so much. San Diego obviously is a hub for wireless but also has good hardware chops as well.
  • I'd argue that LA is actually pretty strong in hardware (along the 101 corridor in particular)-- I'd point out companies like Xylan (Alcatel), Xircom, Ixia, Fulcrum Micro, Xirrus - but, no VC funding there recently.
  • Awesome. Love that perspective. Thank you for the input, I wasn't aware. Any of these startups in the past 5 years or have you seen much LA hardware in the past 5 years?
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