6 Tips for Building Relationships with Journalists

by Mark Suster on March 22, 2010

getting interviewed by the pressFile this under both Startup Adivce and Sales & Marketing Advice.

I was over at Robert Scoble’s blog Sunday night reading about the “Death of the Great Startup Launch.”  I’m not 100% sure that I understood his core thesis but I *think* it was that startup events such as Demo force such a zone of secrecy about what you’re working on (with a threat of being kicked out of the event for leaking your story) that they kill the ability for most companies to dazzle people with a great company launch and doesn’t allow journalists to triangulate with others in the market before going to press.  Oh, and Demo charges the startups $18,000.  Robert’s article is worth reading.

It got me thinking, which for me is always the sign of a good blog post.  I think Robert’s right.  Too many startup execs place too much emphasis on the big stage launch.  There are many problems with this:

- Your chances of being selected aren’t great

- When you are selected you share the stage with 49 other companies (in the case of TechCrunch50.  It is a great show but would be 10x more valuable if it were TC20)

- Most people pay attention to the first 5 companies.  Maybe 10.  By company 22 it’s hard to remember what any of them did.

- Journalists don’t know enough about your company before the show, don’t have time for proper research, and you will be competing for their time afterward with 49+ other companies that want them to write about you

- If you’re Yammer, Mint or RedBeacon (all winners) you’re knighted with wonderful coverage.  Many other great companies are not.

- So I’ve always advised people that if they do launch at a big show, the most important public relations work they do is after the conference.  Use the fact that you were on an anointed list to build credibility when you eventually approach journalists (and VC’s, customers, employees)

But more broadly it got me thinking to one of the biggest mistakes tech executives get into in the first place.  They see journalists as a means to and end.  They see them as a person who can influence the outcome of their company at a single point in time – when they (the startup) have something important to say.  I’ve heard many startup CEO’s (and VCs!) lament the coverage they get from journalists who reported the details unfairly.  It’s no wonder many companies don’t get good coverage.  Here’s my thoughts on improving your relationships with journalists and as a by-product improving the coverage that they afford you:

1. Have a great product – OK, I know I’m stating the obvious, but being friends with or helping journalists will never get you great coverage (if you’re dealing with a high-quality news organization or blogger) if you have a bad or mediocre product or service.  At best you’ll get coverage or avoid getting panned.  Don’t put in the time to getting coverage until your product rocks.  Guy Kawasaki said it best (paraphrasing), “you can’t do great marketing with a bad product.” Total waste.

2. Know that journalists are human – Again, sounds obvious.  But you’d be surprised how much tech folks either hold journalists too much on a pedestal or disdain them.  They’re human.  Get to know them as human beings.  The closest relationships I ever built with journalists were at cocktail parties where we didn’t talk anything about my company.  I became quite good friends with a journalist at the Financial Times and eventually helped her as she wrote a book on the venture capital industry.  It started socially.  The more she got to know more the more she called me for help with stories.  The more you connect with them the more you’ll get over the tendency to want to “spin” and the more they’ll trust you when you give them facts. They get BS’d too so much that you shouldn’t take their trust for granted.

3. Understand their needs - You need to understand a journalist’s needs.  First, understand their deadlines.  Imagine if you had to release your software daily in order to keep your job or to have the traffic numbers you need to earn your paycheck.  They are often interested in knowing whether there is a story to be had from their discussion with you.  I’ve gone on social lunches with journalists where they’ve brought a small pad of paper and pen and left it on the table.  Sort of makes me a bit uncomfortable because I’m thinking, “sh*t, I hadn’t planned anything interesting to say.  Are they expecting an announcement out of me?”  I don’t think they always are.  But as journalists they’re always prepared just in case.

When they are interviewing you for a story, don’t be afraid to ask what the “angle” of the story they’re working on is and how you can best help them with the story.  Every great article has an “angle.”  The angle of this article is that most people don’t build good relationships with journalists and they should.  If I needed third party quotes to support that story I’d be calling journalists to get their opinion on my topic and calling CEO’s to get theirs.  In my blog I just save that for the comments where people can say what their perspectives are.

By knowing the angle you know how to better serve their needs when you speak.  Make sure you know before talking how much time they have – remember they have to publish frequently.  To that end, make sure you also know when they plan to publish your story.

Mostly, I believe that journalists want to be able to have “unfiltered” conversations with real business leaders.  Given a choice of your marketing person or talking to you (the founder) there’s no competition.  Make yourself available.  It is an important part of your job.  Not talking to the press is a bit like a politician saying they don’t want to talk to the press because they’d rather save that time for drafting legislation.  Might be true, but not in your best interests.

4. Help them better do their job – I’ve always been a big believer that relationships with journalists are a long-term investment.  You need to deposit in their bank first.  Get to know them when you don’t have a story that is running.  Offer to help them with stories they’re working on.  Be willing to go on the record with quotes / sound bites.  If they want access to people in the industry that you know make sure to help broker the intro – both sides will thank you for it.  If you’ve got good ideas for a story – shoot it over to them in an email.  If they call you for an interview that has a deadline – be responsive.  You’ll be depositing all the way and earning trust.

On many occasions I’ve offered to give 30 minute industry overviews on a tech topic to journalists when they’re not working on a deadline and want to better understand a topic like SaaS, Cloud, LBS, etc.  The bottom line – if you enjoy discussions with people, if you enjoy educating and sharing – these conversations will not only form closer relationships but will be enjoyable for you as well.

Robert Scoble interviewed me in 2006 about my startup, Koral.  This video will be too long for most of you to want to watch (22 minutes) but provides a good example of how I think about this.    We had a far ranging discussion.  I wasn’t trying to pitch a tightly controlled message about my company.  It was Robert’s show.  I wanted to just let him take it where he wanted it to go (while ensuring that I at least got in my points about what Koral did and why it was a benefit).

By the way, don’t forget that all those times you’re quoted in the blogs and press articles helping other people’s stories you’re actually accruing benefit as well by having your name and company listed.

5. When it is your turn you’ll get a fair shot – If you’re helpful to journalists they are far more likely to want to cover you when you have news to share.  It’s that simple.  Do not equate that with them giving you glowing reviews – you have to earn that.  But you’ll likely at least get inches.  And remember when you do to understand the angle of their story, understand the key points you want to communicate and make sure to balance those to make the article successful for both of you.  Often when the journalist is agreeing to consider writing about you they don’t yet know the “angle” so I always recommend trying to define the angle.  Don’t be afraid to be transparent.  You can say something like, “I was thinking that you might cover a story like, ‘why today’s mobile ad networks don’t benefit most application companies’ and then work me into that story line. Does that sound right to you or do you want to come at it from a different angle.

6. If you’re unhappy fight back fairly – There is always going to be the time where you get unfavorable press.  If you don’t that’s a sure sign that you never really had any success so you’d rather be the person who occasionally gets side swiped.  Deal with it gracefully.  Write the author and let them know that you understand why they wrote their story they way that they did and your OK with that.  But that you’d like the opportunity to clarify a few points so that they can better understand you for next time.  If possible, use it as a way to get an in-person meeting to discuss it.  At a minimum maybe you’ll have a chance to strengthen your rapport for next time.

Also, remember that this is the era of the blog.  Don’t be afraid to write a blog post with their comments in it and point out why you think the actual case is a bit different than what they wrote.  Be respectful.  If they wrote some good points obviously point those out, too.

Summary: Journalists are people.  It turns out that they’re actually quite interesting people.  And they spend time with people far more interesting than you or me.  So spending time with them can be enjoyable.  You can hear all sorts of wild stories and learn much.  So any relationship you build with them will be worth it purely at the friendship level.  But one day you’re obviously going to want coverage (after all, I don’t hang out much with journalists who cover the healthcare sector).  Make sure you deposit much in their bank in terms of assistance and trust before you ever luck for a withdrawal.

If any journalists read this please feel free to add extra tips or disagree with anything I’ve said.

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  • I'd add another tip - "Become an expert in a micro-niche". A relatively small B2B business I started has gotten way more exposure over the years than befits our stature by having a seemingly mundane statistic that nobody else had accurately compiled (the number of record stores in America). We stumbled into a PR niche when a Reuters writer I knew called me for a quote when a major music retailer went bankrupt, and from then on, we became the "go-to" source for this info, simply because journalists looking for this found the original Reuters article and came back to us. Of course, once we realized there was an "expertise niche" there, we made it a priority to compile numerous other statistics and reports about the topic, and have gotten hundreds of press hits large and small over the years without ever having spent a cent on PR.
  • Great post Mark - very insightful and verifies what many people forget now a days, it's about personal relationships, not just an email or phone call.

    From our point of view - journalists are unsung heros in our society. They discover, frame and tell the stories we read on a daily basis, yet are rarely ever celebrated/appreciated publicly for all their hard work.

    We have the utmost respect for journalists. A brief story on a journalist who's become a near and dear friend.....

    When we first met her at a coffee house in Greenwich Village, as she was doing a piece for NYT, we asked her how she stays afloat in NYC with such long hours, and a demanding, yet low paying job. She said, "working from time to time in the back of food kitchens as the line cook."

    This is a very well respected journalist, and we were in amazement of her answer. More importantly, her answer exemplifies the dedication and passion journalists have for their craft.

    Thank you to every single journalist for whom this post is dedicated.

    http://www.nyew.org
  • Great words! Thank you. Because I love the news, I love journalism. Although I was an economics major in college I decided to stay a fifth year and get a double major in political science. It was a part hedge that maybe I'd go to law school like all my friends but mostly because I'm passionate about the news, events and politics. I studied new journalism and how it is shaped during war periods such as Vietnam. Journalists are the highest form of protecting the democracy we have by shining lights and keeping people honest. I hope in the future we can create models where they can make a good living so that our best people still want to go into the profession.
  • There is a whole post on how to actually do an interview in there, especially after watching yours with Robert Scoble in the embedded link above. That alone was worth the read Mark - very smooth.
  • Hey, thanks Marc. Not quite as young looking as college, hey? ;-)
  • Definitely agree that journalists are people. I know, I am married to one.
  • Nice!
  • Agreed on all points. We have a fairly press friendly business, but we very quickly learned that we could take the relationship farther by asking questions about the journalists needs outside of the current feature.

    We ask:
    What is your the schedule for food related articles?
    We ask about how often are you able to mention us per year?
    What kind of food related content is the hardest for you to get?

    Those questions (and others) have allowed us to continually be a resource for journalists when it comes to artisan food. And when we are being proactive we also know when and how often to pitch each type of content.
  • Hey, Nik. Great points - asking these kinds of questions helps you understand the journalist's job and will therefore help you. I love Foodzie. I mention you guys on TV all the time! In fact, just yesterday. I go on Fox Business News a lot (I need to start doing other stations, too!) and it seems many people want to launch food related businesses. I always tell them to check out Foodzie. I'm bummed we still haven't met. I'm in NorCal in April - maybe then? Or are you in SoCal any time soon?
  • Thanks for the TV mentions! That's fantastic to hear - we actually have gotten sporadic reports of mentions on Fox Business News. Too funny.

    I'm actually pretty surprised we haven't met yet either. Our SoCal visits are (at the moment) not too frequent so we definitely should have you stop by the office. Let us know when you're in town! To reach me directly - nik@foodzie.com or @nbauman



  • RE: "If you’re unhappy fight back fairly"

    Whether it is dealers, customers or regulatory officials, you must recognize that their perceptions create your market reality. And you must also recognize that every detail is important in communications. A brand is the sum of thousands of tiny details; every aspect of operations and communications … every interaction with every constituent group—and they all count.

    No great battle is won on the defensive. Once objectives are set, targets are identified and strategy is in place—you must drive aggressively to take control of the competitive dialogue. And, whatever it takes, you must hold onto control of this dialogue.


    DEM
    www.playoffense.com
  • I'm a big believer in offense. My point was that it's a war not a single battle. If you get too pissed off and fight back too harshly you'll burn bridges. You can go back to the journalist and point out inconsistencies. You can even do so publicly. Just don't unnecessarily embarrass them or inflame them. Offense, sure. But fight fairly.
  • shanesnow
    I love this post. As a journalist (finishing my MS at Columbia Journalism School right now) and an entrepreneur, I've been on both sides of the table on this one (sorry for the terrible play on your blog name, haha). Working with sources that understand what we need as journalists to produce constant, consistent, compelling stories is so refreshing. A+ advice, Mark!
  • thank you. good luck finishing your degree. I love journalism, writing, politics, tech coverage, etc. but it's getting to be a hard old industry to make money!
  • I'd add that it's easy to make a journalist's job easier by simply understanding what ingredients they need to craft a story and always be sure to take the time to spoon feed it to them in a way that is digestible. If you want press, then get interested in the notion of storytelling and what it is that makes ideas spread. In other words speak to their listening. We did this recently with a journalist, and had a story written about us in a major news wire, all within 24 hours of meeting the person. It helped that one of our advisers was friends with him and made a very warm intro too.

    Also a big lesson we've learned is that no matter how chummy you might be with journalists, they have lots of pressures to perform and nothing is ever 'off the record,' no matter how good of friends you might be. Think about it, they're consuming so much info, everyone is hitting them up, how are they going to remember you saying "off the record." Don't say anything to anyone that you wouldn't want getting printing or circulating through back channels that can bite you in the ass, which brings me to my next point.

    A very wise man recently told me, "if all you got is sizzle, then sell it, but at some point you got to deliver the steak." Now that I think of it Mark, this could be a blog post in of itself...how to make markets and create buzz and still keep it real...
  • Hey, Kurt. Thanks for the contribution. Couple o' points:
    - storytelling - YES! It's everything. It creates the "angle" I was speaking about.
    - off the record - I have never been burned on this in 15 years. I only go off the record with people I know well but seriously never been burned even once
    - I hope it wasn't me who said to sell the sizzle but deliver the steak. I believe firmly in cooking the steak first. Buzz is fine as long as there is something real under the hood.
  • Willis
    This very much matches how people "sell" products to specifying engineers for a project such as a new water treatment plant. Frequently, the manufacturer interested in the sale will write the specifications for the engineer to use (make their job easier) before they even attempt to convince them of the quality of their product.

    There are many industries where the norm is for someone to make someone else's job easier. Best to follow convention in many of these cases. Thanks for the post Mark.
  • Ha. That's kind of funny. In sales I always said, "if you didn't write the spec, it's likely that one of your competitors did. So you're already starting from second place at best!"
  • Watching your interview reminded me of another tip I had a hard time with: adapt to the journalist's style. Some are listeners, some interrupters. It's their show and they don't appreciate the talent taking the director's seat. You did a nice job being patient with the interruptions and weaving in your points with the hooks the interviewer gave you.
  • Thanks, Jared. Good points and I appreciate the feedback.
  • Some journalist
    Great advice for entrepreneurs/execs, Mark. I totally agree with your last point about writing to the author if you think a post was written unfairly, but just wanted to elaborate on that to your readers: Unless the reporting was horrifically factually wrong, don't CC the reporter's bosses. It makes you look whiny and unreasonable, as if you're hoping it results in some kind of punishment. And it's a good way to ensure your future emails "accidentally" get lost in his/her junk folder.

    Keep in mind that reporters usually churn out about half a dozen stories a day, not to mention field phone calls from PR folks, chase down interviews and deal with finicky editors. Though it obviously isn't ideal, sometimes mistakes are made. More people should realize that these mistakes aren't personal, so a quick note to the writer is always appreciated. But throw his/her bosses in the mix and he/she will feel like the fifth grader getting slapped on the wrist by Teacher.
  • How true. I'm surprised that people would even consider this. If you email anybody's boss on any situation you're unhappy about consider that a dead relationship going forward!
  • CamiloALopez
    Nice video Mark, Although it is a couple years old, It is nice to get to know you in video as suppose to written format.

    Developing relationships with journalist is key. I also would add to your point that If you do not have any major press releases you should check in once in while. just send them an email and comment on their work. Tell them what you are up to.

    The release of our linux OS for high performance computing was featured on an article a month ago, and the journalist mentioned us again in another article recently. So I just sent him an email telling him that I red his work and thanked him for mentioning us again.

    It does not cost anythings and it builds a stronger bond!
  • Well done. For sure.
  • Re: DEMO & TC50. Startups looking to create buzz around their product launch light want to consider Launch: Silicon Valley, www.launchsiliconvalley.org It's run by the non-profit Silicon Valley Association of Startup Entrepreneurs (SVASE) in conjunction with Garage Technology Ventures & Microsoft, and attracts a lot of the same VCs, angels, bloggers, press & TV crews, for a fraction of the cost of DEMO or TC50
  • Great post. Too many companies forget to leverage the media to get good, in-depth content that only costs them the relationship building effort. Advertising is much more expensive, particularly from a startup point of view, and often has marginal impact.
  • davidmhuffman
    Musicians/Artists can really take this advice as well. I blog about this regularly - you don't just shoot off your blind press release and expect it to get attention. Build a relationship, be a trusted street source for stories, in other words "give to get."

    Here is my take in case anyone is interested. The pic is kind of morbid, but I feel strongly about it ;)

    http://www.theindielaunchpad.com/blog/2010/1/14/stop-the-mass-press-release-build-relationships-with-the-loc.html

    @davemhuffman
  • I know beggers can't be choosers but building relationships with the right journalists are key. Big conventions or headliner press releases generate a ton of buzz but do they reach your target market? For me time and effort are the scarcest commodities and I question how efficient it is to bark up the wrong tree. A Congressman from Maine should pose at the local lobsterfest, not court a reporter from the Miami Herald.
  • Yeah, that's true. But I've spent a lot of time with journalists in the past who couldn't really help me that much. Aside from the fact that I enjoy hanging out with journalists, I would tell people that perhaps this would be a harmless way of learning to work with journalists so that when you get a chance to hang out with the ones that are really important to your business you'll have experience. But, yes, your comment is accurate.
  • Totally agree. Interacting with anyone based on how much you can personally benefit is a pretty selfish and boring way to go through life.
  • Interesting. In fact, it's somehow about content marketing :) An entrepreneur must provide them with good, useful and trustful content.
  • davidkpark
    Sage advice as always. With a little tweak here and there, I think you can write a nice post title, "6 Tips for Building Relationships with Future Investors."
  • This is a great post, Mark.

    ... And your point "deposit much in their bank in terms of assistance and trust before you ever luck for a withdrawal" while especially relevant for relationships with journalists, is actually a good principle to follow as much as possible for relationships in general.
  • So true!
  • Great points Mark. I have found that the same approach works with industry analysts, such as Forrester and Gartner. I think the most important point that you covered is to help them do their job better. To point #4, I have found that many journalists appreciate an industry education and value quality input.
  • Yes, the same applies to industry analysts, for sure.
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