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	<title>Comments on: The Benefits of Top-Down Thinking &amp; Why it is Critical to Entrepreneurs</title>
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		<title>By: John_M</title>
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		<dc:creator>John_M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been my experience that the WHY question is easily derailed, for example by unintended exploration of motivation. Rather than allow a legitimate WHY be misunderstod, I pre-limit it by turning it into a focused WHAT. eg: Instead of asking WHY a particular problematic project was started, ask WHAT were the original objectives of the project. This keeps the WHAT/HOW relationship clear and simple for everyone. All you need to do is keep your heirarchy of WHATs clearly organized...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s been my experience that the WHY question is easily derailed, for example by unintended exploration of motivation. Rather than allow a legitimate WHY be misunderstod, I pre-limit it by turning it into a focused WHAT. eg: Instead of asking WHY a particular problematic project was started, ask WHAT were the original objectives of the project. This keeps the WHAT/HOW relationship clear and simple for everyone. All you need to do is keep your heirarchy of WHATs clearly organized&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Srikanth Achanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Srikanth Achanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never analyzed if my thought process was top down or bottom up. I try to keep it as organic as possible. all i worry about it what am i trying to achieve, how can i identify my hurdles and then think of the best ways to cross them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never analyzed if my thought process was top down or bottom up. I try to keep it as organic as possible. all i worry about it what am i trying to achieve, how can i identify my hurdles and then think of the best ways to cross them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Maciel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Maciel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have a book called &quot;Science Made Stupid&quot; -- you can google it and a scanned copy is available online.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It talks about the two approaches to science:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Inductive:&lt;br&gt;1) Create Hypothesis&lt;br&gt;2) Apply for Grant&lt;br&gt;3) Test Hypothesis&lt;br&gt;4) Alter Data to Fit Hypothesis&lt;br&gt;5) Publish&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Deductive:&lt;br&gt;1) Create Hypothesis&lt;br&gt;2) Apply for Grant&lt;br&gt;3) Test Hypothesis&lt;br&gt;4) Alter Hypothesis to Fit Data&lt;br&gt;5) Publish&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that what you&#039;re talking about is having the second approach. I think that&#039;s a universal truth (that we should pay more attention to what works than what we think should works), and isn&#039;t a matter of &quot;top-down&quot; or &quot;bottom-up&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that philsugar hit the nail on the head with &quot;big picture&quot; and &quot;getting things done&quot; as the top-down and bottom-up approach that you&#039;re discussing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In any business (start-up or otherwise) there is a need to understand both why you need to do something, as well as how to accomplish it. And I think that&#039;s needed at every single step of the chain. The head of the company needs to understand why we need to do something, and have an idea of how to accomplish it at least enough to communicate it with people who can break the &quot;how&quot; down into smaller parts, and explain the &quot;why&quot; in the context of their group.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I hear &quot;top-down&quot; and &quot;bottom-up&quot; I think of management styles more than anything. Most businesses have three elements: production (making the good), sales (selling the good), support (general management, IT, marketing, etc.). I believe that &quot;bottom-up&quot; means that the support groups take queues from the sales and production sides, while &quot;top-down&quot; means the support directs the efforts of the sales and marketing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that truly successful management is actually bottom-up to top-down to bottom-up. You listen to what your front-line people are telling you, figure out the bigger trends, set strategy based on your understanding, and sent it back down for feedback from the market.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I think that&#039;s an entirely separate discussion altogether...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have a book called &#8220;Science Made Stupid&#8221; &#8212; you can google it and a scanned copy is available online.</p>
<p>It talks about the two approaches to science:</p>
<p>Inductive:<br />1) Create Hypothesis<br />2) Apply for Grant<br />3) Test Hypothesis<br />4) Alter Data to Fit Hypothesis<br />5) Publish</p>
<p>Deductive:<br />1) Create Hypothesis<br />2) Apply for Grant<br />3) Test Hypothesis<br />4) Alter Hypothesis to Fit Data<br />5) Publish</p>
<p>I think that what you&#39;re talking about is having the second approach. I think that&#39;s a universal truth (that we should pay more attention to what works than what we think should works), and isn&#39;t a matter of &#8220;top-down&#8221; or &#8220;bottom-up&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think that philsugar hit the nail on the head with &#8220;big picture&#8221; and &#8220;getting things done&#8221; as the top-down and bottom-up approach that you&#39;re discussing.</p>
<p>In any business (start-up or otherwise) there is a need to understand both why you need to do something, as well as how to accomplish it. And I think that&#39;s needed at every single step of the chain. The head of the company needs to understand why we need to do something, and have an idea of how to accomplish it at least enough to communicate it with people who can break the &#8220;how&#8221; down into smaller parts, and explain the &#8220;why&#8221; in the context of their group.</p>
<p>When I hear &#8220;top-down&#8221; and &#8220;bottom-up&#8221; I think of management styles more than anything. Most businesses have three elements: production (making the good), sales (selling the good), support (general management, IT, marketing, etc.). I believe that &#8220;bottom-up&#8221; means that the support groups take queues from the sales and production sides, while &#8220;top-down&#8221; means the support directs the efforts of the sales and marketing.</p>
<p>I believe that truly successful management is actually bottom-up to top-down to bottom-up. You listen to what your front-line people are telling you, figure out the bigger trends, set strategy based on your understanding, and sent it back down for feedback from the market.</p>
<p>But I think that&#39;s an entirely separate discussion altogether&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, this sounds like an example of convergent vs divergent thinking:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_and_divergent_production&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_and_div...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, this sounds like an example of convergent vs divergent thinking:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_and_divergent_production" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_and_div&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: drorengel</title>
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		<dc:creator>drorengel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@giffc great example! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark - Can you provide more examples?  thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@giffc great example! </p>
<p>Mark &#8211; Can you provide more examples?  thanks</p>
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		<title>By: jamespatterson2</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamespatterson2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point.  Ahh, the days of assistants!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point.  Ahh, the days of assistants!</p>
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		<title>By: David Nagy</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nagy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 03:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and... we should forget about the WHY&#039;s :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and&#8230; we should forget about the WHY&#39;s <img src='http://bothsides.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Beerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Beerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 01:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark I think you are very right.  Unlike the public markets where a bottom-up approach can shape your investment thesis, I too believe entrepreneurs must implement a top-down approach to business/startups.  Regardless of the macro-level problems amidst a volatile or seemingly fearful economic environment, it seems irrational for an entrepreneur to judge his entire schema about underlying fundamentals in the broader economy.  Taking a top-down approach in this startup game can enable an entrepreneur to take an industry or sector he sees with a customer problem or burning desire for something better to completely shapeshift the industry and make the value-chain more effective for the end user.  Taking-on two industries as we speak to appropriate the paradigm shift.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark I think you are very right.  Unlike the public markets where a bottom-up approach can shape your investment thesis, I too believe entrepreneurs must implement a top-down approach to business/startups.  Regardless of the macro-level problems amidst a volatile or seemingly fearful economic environment, it seems irrational for an entrepreneur to judge his entire schema about underlying fundamentals in the broader economy.  Taking a top-down approach in this startup game can enable an entrepreneur to take an industry or sector he sees with a customer problem or burning desire for something better to completely shapeshift the industry and make the value-chain more effective for the end user.  Taking-on two industries as we speak to appropriate the paradigm shift&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: ShanaC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShanaC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say be very careful and be very open minded.  it&#039;s like science- you can have your answer proven wrong and you have to be open minded to that possibility.  And be ready to move when that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say be very careful and be very open minded.  it&#39;s like science- you can have your answer proven wrong and you have to be open minded to that possibility.  And be ready to move when that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody Swann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody Swann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a top-down thinker, I definitely thing I benefit. However, there is a huge caveat to this approach. When you start with the solution in mind, you must guard against the selective bias where you find statistics and research to support your answer to the exclusion of contradictory evidence. It&#039;s hard to do. It&#039;s very easy to put blinders on and assume you KNOW the answer instead of know what the answer COULD be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a top-down thinker, I definitely thing I benefit. However, there is a huge caveat to this approach. When you start with the solution in mind, you must guard against the selective bias where you find statistics and research to support your answer to the exclusion of contradictory evidence. It&#39;s hard to do. It&#39;s very easy to put blinders on and assume you KNOW the answer instead of know what the answer COULD be.</p>
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